On 12/6/2005 11:55, Nico R. wrote:
> I dislike it being proprietary, yes. The other thing is that I was told
> that players not implementing it would (at least in theory) be cheaper.
> Well, in this case, that's a non-issue, though ...

Reality is that decoding MP3 can be done royalty free.  Most if not all
portable music players today are made with standard DSP chips which have
the MP3 decoding built in.  AFAIK, it takes custom firmware development to
be able to support things like Ogg and Flac and others so the opposite is
what is true.  Small stick shaped flash players now have only a very small
price increase over a same sized plain memory stick.

When you see a creative labs player all you are essentially getting is
some generic thing with their name on it.  All the code inside comes from
the hardware designers or elsewhere.  The only thing they have to do with
it is choosing from a punch-list of features and physical appearance.
BTW, the only reason you see WMA (which probably less ppl use than Ogg
even) supported in these things is because M$ is trying to be the dominant
format over MP3.  Therefore, they pay the chip designers to put WMA
capability into the DSP.  M$ probably also supplies them with the firmware
code to decode it or supplies them with developers.  Ogg designers could
do the same thing but, well, they're not a multi-billion $ company

The bottom line is that technology is made to get something done, not to
further religious viewpoints.  You will be waiting until after your death
for a player that supports only formats which only a very few people use.
  Well over 99% of ppl could give a rats ass about quality or real freedom
(they just want want want things things things); that's why places like
Walmart are so huge.  Even people like me, who agree in principle with
this viewpoint on the merits of freedom want their devices to work with as
many formats as possible, not less.  I guess it is a good example of the
difference between evangelism (you) and plain worship (me).  Everyone can
see there are *far* more churchgoers than priests.

Pick two from:
-low cost
-works well
-many features (ogg only would be a feature to you I guess)

~Jason

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