On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 19:18, DJ Lucas <[email protected]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/06/2010 03:46 PM, Stuart Stegall wrote: >> [SNIP] >> >> I think it would be a wise plan. Someone can of course try converting >> all the base startup jobs over to systemd. It might be wise to >> mention upstart/systemd now that it looks as though most of the >> distros other than openSUSE are at the least going to be on to >> something else. > > What advantage do the alternatives give us? I seen something about > event driven...sounds complicated. As they are now, things are quite > simple, with the most difficult task being keeping track of the links > (which I've been working on automating following the LSB standard). Do > scripts contain dependency information? If so, how about using the LSB > comment blocks directly to kill two birds with one stone? You mentioned > event driven scripts? How do they work? How are events generated and > interpreted? I'm assuming another daemon must be running. Do client > apps needing services also have to be compiled with support, or is there > something akin to inetd/xinetd running the show? Lots of questions > unanswered so far. > > A proof of concept would be the best way to start. At this point, the > "advantages" haven't been explained, and I have no interest in reading > some dry documentation without some expected advantage. Give me that > "WOW" feature that makes me want to read, and I will. > > The best way to do that, and to gain an understanding of it at the same > time so that *you* can answer questions, is to do the leg work to prove > to all (yourself included) that one of the alternatives is better than > the current boot process. We have a wiki available for your use. The > hints site is also still around if you prefer plain text. You could > also host instructions on your own website with a link sent to the list, > or even just send a text step by step to the list. As long as the > advantages *and* *disadvantages* are covered we'll take a look. OTOH, > don't bother sending in anything if you can't objectively list > disadvantages as well as advantages, as nothing is without flaw. >
This is why I would put these new implementations of SysVinit into BLFS at first. You don't really know what dependencies they might bring with them yet. > HTH > > - -- DJ Lucas > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMM7m7AAoJEIUM+xKzBYsI6dIP/0tACteQDgpTTUc36btLemqk > oH30pmI3kq+qWbPZhIr3yb2DddUhQPTdNdib+kantx+TwOTOVO7B3QE011ceMChv > FTsX+OGFMwAxorF51WDTE87ejo8YkG8Krfm04kuvftqUkTMaYLfVHi9UWFXsOi6y > 2TT5OXDhCY9WtChykGQBguYXlKAjG00Lku+5efURyetNhL7seXsi8NlR3vP2hI4W > WY9UJijq4IegcPPOfNy6kU4MTrDQT3GQ4Z7wqvPZ7nwBXo30wWq13PJQcf0TYaXY > ZxQ9aRGPADZ4RRBHQZb46cFHnEY3kg5Ju+XYjlNmP5Kg2LCVBg8quMmnm9xqLaZk > zYMT6WynXqUheg2dfseNgPWoNPr7BghVPQHJ6Dx73JpGwsMH9btJBHfkskvy8InL > Jv97ax5PQhD5MMsi38Vs6qywTvT4F9X2cZnsgcPOZ8bYP7gpIrusYYN+3xQReHeJ > PASvoTpxX5AmCFyQDnhDLdUZNVdHqDv7yBm9z4o7+rYEPRDBKU83aVeyfM58MJxt > TZxjm3y+ip6tByRo0BZRWcvQQz178UR3kZF5ekMIm2W5LR+X0qcEf9D2rMztAs5D > f7IeixflehJcC5DBL8qreifHjkUrlaryvrcV/HoEigudAwKqjw8SsaeIO+BEYt3J > Naa2R6W4cxVUVR4XqoT/ > =PnVS > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content, and is believed to be clean. > > -- > http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > -- later, Robert Xu -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
