Bonjour Ken

On 02/05/2019 10:35 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote:
On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 02:43:04AM +0000, DJ Lucas via lfs-dev wrote:

On 2/5/2019 7:35 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote:
So far, all my linux machines have had CD or DVD drives, so I have not
needed to create bootable usb sticks. But I'm hoping to get a new
laptop, and all the interesting and available ones come with
windoze-10 installed and without a DVD drive. So, I need to convert
downloaded iso images to bootable UEFI sticks to be able to install.

I usually just use dd as well, but the ISO has to be authored correctly
to do that. I also have a USB DVD drive handy if I need it.

Thanks.  That gives me hope if I install a distro as the first
stage.  I tried some different search terms after posting (the last
time I looked re SRCD and sticks I think I just got ubuntu
answers).  This time I got an "official" link mentioning changing
various things, so it looks as id 'dd' is just for 'hybrid' ISO
files.  I left the dev machine building dosfstools (thanks for
adding that, I didn't think I'd ever need it) so I can try different
approaches in the next few days.

Advice from fedora and Arch suggests: # dd bs=4M if=path/to/some.iso
of=/dev/sdX \ status=progress oflag=sync although docs at kali suggest
bs=512k is more conservative and might be more reliable. So I tried
that with a copy of SystemRescueCD, using /dev/sdb on a machine with
only one real drive. With bs=4M it claimed to copy 499MB, on a later
retry with bs=512K it claimed to copy 571MB.

I was not aware that SystemRescueCD was still current enough to build LFS.

Maybe it isn't - but it has some useful tools and will give
confirmation that whichever 'magic' key I hold down on a cold boot
(maybe F2, but depends who wrote the UEFI) does let me boot from a
stick.

But (testing on a couple of existing linux machiens which are new
enough to boot from a stick) in neither case did it boot, and the
bios/UEFI of the systems where I tried it did not recognize it as
UEFI. Conmversely, I had created a memtest86 stick from within a
windoze machine in the past, and that _is_ recognized as UEFI and
booted by both the linux machines. When I mount the iso (or the stick
I created, as iso9660) I can see the EFI directory, so I'm apparently
doing something wrong. Looking at the stick from grub2 when trying to
boot ('ls'), it appears as fd0 and 'ls (fd0)' showed an appreviation
relating to systemRescueCD (sysrescu or something like that). Any
ideas, please ?

Never tried this, but pendrivelinux says grub2 can handle it just fine
by loading the ISO directly from the filesystem, no conversion
necessary. I'm curious how this works.
https://u9506022.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=whJjosCeOLYzQfP1KFWXmZmv85aTceATmmbEPqJT0-2FaKKTsgt0BKRUwbuEXRiHPDUBA7HilwBsIHhIIO70LWKBPUYMtpHT1rMnhcLdtFgBuI81sT4gD8YP8HkO81-2Bony_Jk5LPYwsS0SsgumitnMItu9QU7Qj-2BgmCmPDCx2Jg8xDqlduZYllnrBzoZ5DawB3O-2FshP7AlsiFwpJ-2Fo7VEvNjmEiicgBKiYKG0Hw0qe6W93DYabfG-2FThi-2Bx2eWMiU4QoLbBP2FxhGYS128gQSlPsPlRDn-2FtcvsmNwLQB87fAw0-2BkAYmmnkSddLa98FFXsPE8IC3jfKsZOgfzfEdC4M5flhegK16zCTmErIRuKSotD28-3D

I'm currently on my (ancient) netbook, copy-and-paste-in-urxvt
disappeared ages ago so I can't check that for the moment - but I
agree that it sounds odd.

Other advice on 'buntu suggested unetbootin' - gentoo have a patch to
use qt5 (at the cost of no ftp listing) although one of the patched
files no longer exists (possibly, a ruby script). With that ignored, I
could create it - but giving it a trial run gave me lots of pop-up
messages (in legacy Xorg fonts, i.e. tiny and hard to read) suggesting
that I needed a lot of other packages. A comment at fedora suggests
that in fact it needs 32-bit libraries : fat chance of that.
That's doable, but not the easiest thing in the world.

Agreed, but a diversion from what I want to do.

And I'm on sysv so I don't have gnome disk utility which fedora
recommend for creating (Live) boot sticks.
I'm working toward that, but doubt it's ready for 8.4.
--DJ


I suspect I won't like gdu.  Even just installing 'file manager' (I
suppose that is nautilus) has meant that a large number of downloads
default to opening in that instead of saving.  So please don't
prioritise that on my account.

But thanks for thr comments on 'dd' - if I end up installing 'buntu
to bootstrap LFS, I'm hopeful that will work.  And I wish I had
bought more of these sticks to play with, but using a 16GB stick
(smallest currently available) for something which is under 1GB
seems so wasteful.

ĸen

May be that can help you.
https://okrepo.safe.ca/osukiss/8.4/isos/LFS-8.4-1.23.3-rescue-x86_64.iso
This is a bootable ISO with LFS within.
can be used to install or to rescue.

To get an USB bootable,  I just  dd the ISO file to the USB device.
(This ISO is fresh from today, I am tring to stay in pace with
LFS CVS version  ;) ).


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