On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:59 AM, robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> Stuart Stegall wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Ken Moffat <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 06:31:31PM -0600, robert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No, I got the "me hopes" part ... quite Shakespearean, in fact ... as in
>>>> methinks ...
>>>>
>>>> It's the "build itself" part ... still don't understand what that means.
>>>>   Do you mean just write up a script and cut it loose to build the os?
>>>>
>>>  The idea (in the days of "iterative comparison analysis", and
>>> before), was that a new LFS system should have everything it needed
>>> to build itself, and that the result ought to be identical (in
>>> practice, after stripping files, and removing the different
>>> compressed timestamps from gzipped files, and some other "we don't
>>> quite know why this always differs" files).
>>>
>>>  So, some of us used to take a new development or pre-release
>>> version, and let it build itself (or rebuild itself in-place for
>>> Greg's version of ICA).  With modern toolchains, I've given up doing
>>> that because there were too many unexplainable differences, perhaps
>>> caused by address randomization.
>>>
>>> ĸen
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>>
>> The last sentance there hits the head on why ICA doesn't really work
>> anymore.  There's features in the kernel, glibc, binutils and gcc all
>> of which will cause the build results to be slightly different each
>> time.  Heck, at work we're trying to figure out why our builds built
>> over night run 2.3% faster than our builds during the day.  And I'm
>> not talking about the build itself, but the actual runtime.
>
> More body heat in the room.  Less efficient processor.  Laboring
> processor.  Less air current in the room, resulting in reduced electron
> jiggle.  My Fiat Spyder runs a good deal better at night, but maybe that
> has to do with other factors....
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My M3 runs better in the cold, and that has everything to do with
cold.  In this case though, this is in a temperature controlled Data
Center with no competition for cycles.  The program actually runs
during the day, but if the build was done during the day, it will take
a little bit longer, if it's done at night, it takes a bit less.
Strangest thing I have ever experienced.
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