Hello There

I've been reading this topic for a lot of time and I would like to
give some tips.

Il sab 28 set 2019, 09:07 Paul Rogers <[email protected]> ha scritto:
>
> > Secondly, for others and not so much for You..
> > I got GCC and (so far) Glibc to compile, I still need to do the check
> > to make sure it built it correctly..
>
> I'm assuming you're still on your new DELL?  I'm afraid that test will lie to 
> you.  Because your CPU has SSSEx instructions, the test will run on the Dell, 
> but that code cannot run on an i586.
>
> In recent times I tried to build both LFS-6.1.1 for an i586 and LFS-7.2 for 
> an i686, on an i7 and Core2 Duo.  The promise of building on a 4-core 
> hyperthreaded 2+ GHz system is a cruel illusion.  In the end, I built both on 
> the target CPU.
>
> Yes, it is supposedly possible to have GMP build generic code.  I've tried, 
> and it just wasted more time than it would have taken to build from scratch 
> on the target CPU.


Why don't we use a cross-compiler? I suggest to make a cross-compiler
for i586-linux-gnu and use that to build the temporary system. I can
create a guide for that.

> > That fixed my problem.. It just checked out..
>
> On your i586, or the Dell?  How do you know it "checked out"?
>
> > Now, Paul what do I after I have my 586 out, it has a DVD , no floppy,
> > but it could be added, I have Linux Mint all the way back to 3.X except
> > for 4.X up to Linux Mint 18.3..
>
> Add the floppy.  Go back to a CDROM drive, I doubt an i586 can keep up with a 
> DVD.  Install one of your 32-bit Mints for a host system, or use the LFS Live 
> CD.  Then start installing LFS-6.{1-3} from scratch, i.e. Ch 4, on the i586.  
> (Some bits of what you built on the Dell might be usable, but IMO it's just 
> not worth the waste of time getting to the end and seeing it crash with an 
> illegal instruction and THEN starting over.)
>
> > I have tried Linux Mint and the only versions that will talk to the
> > Internet are 17.1 up to 18.3..
>
> As I said, I run (B)LFS-7.2 on a 1GHz Pentium-iii Coppermine every day and it 
> chokes on modern websites with lots of images and javascript.  I get a lot of 
> Google javascripts that stop responding and timeout.  Don't expect an i586 
> and the Firefox-2.0.0.16 to do even that well.  A third generation 
> Pentium-MMX runs at 233MHz, a tenth or less of modern CPUs.  Also, LFS-6.1 is 
> going to be running a 2.6 kernel, more ot less (2.6.17 on mine),



The Linux kernel can run on a CPU as old as a 486. You can check this
by unpacking the most recent kernel and running 'make menuconfig'

There deselect the option "64-bit kernel", go to "Professor type and
features" and finally check "Processor Family"

Someone has installed Gentoo on a 486 computer. More info here:
http://yeokhengmeng.com/2018/01/make-the-486-great-again/

> and you should think twice about allowing that on the internet without armed 
> guards.
>
> > I have no idea about building foxfire and how to do that,
>
> Follow the BLFS instructions.
>
> > I will get a little further on my Dell Machine and then put it away,
> > and get out the 586..
>
> Don't bother!  You have to throw away anything you built on the DELL.
>
> If you're going to keep at this you'll need to put your mindset back to the 
> late 90's and forget everything that happened in the last 20 years!  (Except 
> how many critical security flaws have been found in the kernel and other FOSS 
> since, e.g. ShellShock, HeartBleed, and Ghost.)  You'll be making a 20 
> year-old system on 20 year-old hardware, about equivalent to driving a horse 
> and buggy on an Interstate Highway in a war zone!  But don't let that stop 
> you.
>
>
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