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From: "Paul Rogers" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 00:07:01 -0700
> Secondly, for others and not so much for You..
> I got GCC and (so far) Glibc to compile, I still need to do the check
> to make sure it built it correctly..
I'm assuming you're still on your new DELL? I'm afraid that test will lie to
you. Because your CPU has SSSEx instructions, the test will run on the Dell,
but that code cannot run on an i586.
In recent times I tried to build both LFS-6.1.1 for an i586 and LFS-7.2 for an
i686, on an i7 and Core2 Duo. The promise of building on a 4-core
hyperthreaded 2+ GHz system is a cruel illusion. In the end, I built both on
the target CPU.
Yes, it is supposedly possible to have GMP build generic code. I've tried, and
it just wasted more time than it would have taken to build from scratch on the
target CPU.
> That fixed my problem.. It just checked out..
On your i586, or the Dell? How do you know it "checked out"?
> Now, Paul what do I after I have my 586 out, it has a DVD , no floppy,
> but it could be added, I have Linux Mint all the way back to 3.X except
> for 4.X up to Linux Mint 18.3..
Add the floppy. Go back to a CDROM drive, I doubt an i586 can keep up with a
DVD. Install one of your 32-bit Mints for a host system, or use the LFS Live
CD. Then start installing LFS-6.{1-3} from scratch, i.e. Ch 4, on the i586.
(Some bits of what you built on the Dell might be usable, but IMO it's just not
worth the waste of time getting to the end and seeing it crash with an illegal
instruction and THEN starting over.)
> I have tried Linux Mint and the only versions that will talk to the
> Internet are 17.1 up to 18.3..
As I said, I run (B)LFS-7.2 on a 1GHz Pentium-iii Coppermine every day and it
chokes on modern websites with lots of images and javascript. I get a lot of
Google javascripts that stop responding and timeout. Don't expect an i586 and
the Firefox-2.0.0.16 to do even that well. A third generation Pentium-MMX runs
at 233MHz, a tenth or less of modern CPUs. Also, LFS-6.1 is going to be
running a 2.6 kernel, more ot less (2.6.17 on mine), and you should think twice
about allowing that on the internet without armed guards.
> I have no idea about building foxfire and how to do that,
Follow the BLFS instructions.
> I will get a little further on my Dell Machine and then put it away,
> and get out the 586..
Don't bother! You have to throw away anything you built on the DELL.
If you're going to keep at this you'll need to put your mindset back to the
late 90's and forget everything that happened in the last 20 years! (Except
how many critical security flaws have been found in the kernel and other FOSS
since, e.g. ShellShock, HeartBleed, and Ghost.) You'll be making a 20 year-old
system on 20 year-old hardware, about equivalent to driving a horse and buggy
on an Interstate Highway in a war zone! But don't let that stop you.
--
Paul Rogers
[email protected]
Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates."
(I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-)
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First of All Thank You Paul for Your Much Help and advice..
"" Secondly, for others and not so much for You..
> I got GCC and (so far) Glibc to compile, I still need to do the check
> to make sure it built it correctly..""
No, this ISN'T to run on the 586, but, if anyone is having trouble making it
thru GCC and Glibc what I did may be the Answer that they may need for them to
proceed..
What I am running and wanting to finish on the Dell is to make it all the way
thru for a first time making LFS 7.10.. After You told me that that code would
not run on the 586, I went to plan B..
Linux Mint is only valid to run / or work on 3.1 , 5.0, 7.0 of the DVD's that
I have..
So far I have had (last night) Running on the 586, Ubuntu 4.10 and then 5.10,
these look better than Mint for a Host for me, I am planning on trying up to
Ubuntu 10.10, looking for the best match for LFS 6.XX..
So, I an Not trying to make code on the Dell to Run on the 586, it was my
original plan, but, You showed me the light and that, that was not the way to
go..
So far, the DVD's seem to work fine on the 586..
So to get the LFS Book for 6.XX can I use FireFox 2.0.0.16 to download the Book
OR do I need to copy it to a USB Stick and copy and Paste that to the 586 ??
"" On your i586, or the Dell? How do you know it "checked out"? ""
That was on the Dell, where in the 7.10 book it ran some code that said the GCC
and the Glibc code was working fine, not on the 586, sorry about the confusion..
THANK YOU Marty
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