> The other problem with building firefox as 32-bit is that you may > run out of virtual memory when linking it.
Building the contemporaneous version of Firefox will work if he builds a (B)LFS-6.1 system on the 586. Beyond that he'll fall into "dependendy hell". > I may have to build it on the Dell, that is still a ways away.. If you do it won't run on the 586. You don't seem to understand instruction sets. > > > Do You know How or if there is a way to find what Version of Foxfire I > > > have in like my Linux Mint 17.1 I can then download that , hopefully from > > > source and build it to a earlier version of Linux Mint that will boot on > > > the 586.. Again, you'll be wasting your time. You'll really want to build a LFS system contemporaneous with the 586 hardware on the 586 hardware with a contemporaneous distro release. Build LFS-6.1 on the 586. Build the BLFS packages from the 6.1--there are dependencies the LFS team has worked out that will make the packages play well together. You can't jus grab any old version of this and that and expect them all to play well together--the book tells you that, if you paid attention to it. > will Load on the 586, so far 3.1, 5.0 and 7.0 Load and 17.1 doesn't > load, so while I am at it I will find out what version of foxfire it is > using.. And put it into a list, along with the other information and > see if that helps.. Stop that! You're just confusing matters. You do not need nor want a modern system to host building on the 586! You want one that is contemporaneous with the hardware, a 20 year-old distro! > Paul, You mentioned about foxfire 2.0.0.16 which I have downloaded, but > the impression I got from your posting, was that it wouldn't work to > gain access of the Internet, So, I don't see any reason to compile > that, OR did I mis-read Your Post ?? It seems to me you've misread or misunderstood all of my posts. What was the internet like 20 years ago? Do you remember Netscape? Things have changed! You can't drive a horse and buggy on the Interstate Highways! Not be cause the horse and buggy can't handle the concrete, assuming the horse has non-slip rubber horse-shoes, but because the other users and standards on the highway won't support you. You'd be expected to go 60MPH. > I currently am updating and possibly upgrading Ubuntu 4.10 on the 586, > it is running from the disk that I have for it, once this gets > completed, and I have the version numbers of the various packages, I > will try Ubuntu 5.10, 6.10, 7.10 up to 10.10 and see what will run.. > But, so far it is looking good.. Once I see what work and what would be > the best match for LFS.. You don't seem to understand what a 586 is and is not, yet you are charging ahead as though it weren't a 20 year-old CPU! > > Why don't we use a cross-compiler? I suggest to make a cross-compiler > for i586-linux-gnu and use that to build the temporary system. I can > create a guide for that. Compiling 32-bit code on a 64-bit CPU WOULD BE a cross-compiling job, if he didn't have the 586 available to build with. It may be slower compiling on the 586, but there'd be no issue of cross contamination. Trust me, that IS an issue. > The Linux kernel can run on a CPU as old as a 486. You can check this > by unpacking the most recent kernel and running 'make menuconfig' Some versions can, that's not the issue. The problem is that the old kernels have flaws, the new kernels are humongous. The 586 is less than 1/10th the speed of modern CPUs, ~233MHz depending a little bit on manufacturer, and 586 chipsets, again depending a little bit on manufacturer, only cache 64MB of RAM, max-out at 128MB or 256MB, IF the motherboard manufacturer designed in support for the maximum, which most did not. By modern standards a 586 is a slug and tiny. > Someone has installed Gentoo on a 486 computer. More info here: Have you actually run one? I have, and do. It ain't pretty! > > I have tried Linux Mint and the only versions that will talk to the > > Internet are 17.1 up to 18.3.. Don't you imagine there may be a reason for that? > What I am running and wanting to finish on the Dell is to make it all > the way thru for a first time making LFS 7.10.. After You told me that > that code would not run on the 586, I went to plan B.. Consider the instruction sets! > So far I have had (last night) Running on the 586, Ubuntu 4.10 and then > 5.10, these look better than Mint for a Host for me, I am planning on > trying up to Ubuntu 10.10, looking for the best match for LFS 6.XX.. It ain't Ubuntu-10! You don't want ANY distro version released in this century! > So far, the DVD's seem to work fine on the 586.. DVD's are not for 586 systems. Compare the dates. The 586 is too slow to provide data fast enough to write a DVD. You'll get underruns. There's a reason DVD's use 80-pin cables. 586 Motherboards only support 40-pin cables. Remember what I wrote about mindsets! > So to get the LFS Book for 6.XX can I use FireFox 2.0.0.16 to download > the Book OR do I need to copy it to a USB Stick and copy and Paste that > to the 586 ?? How? Does your 586 support USB? Which version, if any? Do you have a USB version 1 stick? I think you should be spending your time reading about the history of the 586 era! Doesn't seem you lived through it, and think it was like it is today. Not even close! -- Paul Rogers [email protected] Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. 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