Hey Douglas,

          In light of the US re-emphasizing its control over com/net/org 
domains, I recently made the switch from .com in favor of Belgium's .be 
TLD.  Belgium redefines bureaucracy for people who live there, but their 
ideas on internet freedom made them an ideal choice. And I got a domain that 
amuses me (cryptic.be)

          .is domains are on the pricey side, at around $130 per year, 
which is a bit steep.  Cost aside, Iceland is a great country and the IMMI 
makes registering domains there an attractive option.

        Best,
        Griffin Boyce

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                        Re: [liberationtech] Secure Your Domain - Where Is Safe 
to Register a Domain Name? - Gun.io
From: Douglas Lucas <[email protected]>
                To: [email protected]

                Thursday, May 10, 2012 at 4:11PM

                Hi everyone,

                I'm surprised the original post ( 
https://gun.io/blog/secure-your-domain-where-is-safe-to-register-a-domain-name/ 
) ruled out Iceland. They gave its economic troubles as the reason. Any 
thoughts on .is specifically?

                Douglas


                        On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Bill Woodcock 
<[email protected]> wrote:

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                                        On May 10, 2012, at 9:04 AM, 
[email protected] wrote:
                                        > A more thorough answer would 
involve the cross-section of MLATs,
                                        > Military assistance treaties, and 
global copyright agreements.
                                         
                                Yes, exactly…  Basically, diplomacy 
involves a lot of trading unrelated interests off against each other… 
 Domain takedowns exchanged for food aid, or loan guarantees, or a partial 
relaxation of trade tariffs, or whatever.  So the more active the 
diplomacy between two countries, and the greater the imbalance of power between 
them, the less you want to hang your hat on the stability of domain names in 
the weaker one.


                                        > For example, if you wanted to 
start a cool new file sharing site, base
                                        > it in Iran, Iraq, Cuba, Libya, 
Syria, Belarus, Zimbabwe, or Burma.
                                         
                                Actually, I'd strongly disagree with that, 
for two reasons.  First, rule of law corresponds strongly with stability 
of the DNS…  In  a country with weak rule of law, high 
corruption, high volatility, you're likely to have an arbitrary takedown 
based on completely other issues:

http://www.neowin.net/news/nicly-down-as-libyas-response-to-vbly-takedown-spreads

                                Moreover, registering domains in such countries 
is often a matter of walking into the communications ministry, cash in hand, 
and showing your citizenship papers or domestic incorporation papers.

                                The second reason is in countries with volatile 
politics, like all of those you cited, things can change very quickly.  I 
just spent the last four days in Tripoli, and things are very different there 
now than they were a year ago, and they'll be still more different a year 
from now.  They're both becoming more religious, more political, and 
more aligned with and dependent upon their relationship with the U.S. 
government.  Make no mistake, it's an infinitely better place to live 
now than it was a year ago, and in general terms of "Internet 
freedoms" it's much better now and on a very good trajectory.  I 
just wouldn't count on it being friendly to interests to which the USG is 
hostile; that time is past.

                                And the same thing could happen in any of the 
other countries you cite, very quickly, if the political winds swing another 
direction.

                                In Switzerland, that's unlikely to happen. 
 On the contrary, they've been strengthening their laws protecting 
domains against _private sector_ takedowns.

                                            
                   -Bill





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