On 08/06/2012 06:22 PM, Douglas Lucas wrote: > Is not Riseup accessed over SSL webmail a comparable analogy to current > Cryptocat? And yet activists without their own .mx trust Riseup, and no > one says there's little to no difference between Facebook email and > Riseup email.
I actually disagree with your premise. I don't see Riseup as a "security" project, but as a project that's value is in self-sufficiency and self-control. This might be an unpopular opinion, but if I were talking with an activist, and they wanted to strictly prioritize the *security* of their email without any other consideration, I would recommend GMail over Riseup. Again, no offense to the awesome people at Riseup, but I believe that Google has probably done a better job in maintaining their SSL infrastructure, server security, and authentication systems (2FA, etc). I think this even applies to activists in the US. I don't think it has ever happened, but I don't expect the members of Riseup to go to jail for me if they were ever presented with a warrant for my stored emails. Or, as with the box that was recently seized, the US government might not even ask first. - moxie -- http://www.thoughtcrime.org _______________________________________________ liberationtech mailing list [email protected] Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you click above) next to "would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?" You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
