Can I just say - I love you, woman. Go tell it to the rather narrow-minded boys. On Oct 7, 2012 7:40 PM, "Asher Wolf" <asherw...@cryptoparty.org> wrote:
> The argument everyone is politely avoiding - while pondering the > numerous ways CryptoParty will expose already compromised individuals - > is whether the masses SHOULD use crypto. > > Rain-check: it's happening - or at least, the users are are trying - > regardless of whether they're are doing it right, or regardless of > whether more experienced ppl are willing to offer their advice or not, > and completely separate to the philosophical, technical and security > related-discussions that are currently swirling. > > Basically: hello crypto, the users are here. > > From experience, most of the non-tech ppl who attended Melbourne's > Cryptoparty had previously attempted to install various tools by > themselves and had either (a) failed (b) installed them incorrectly (c) > couldn't figure out how to configure them (d) given up 'til now. > > CryptoParty is essentially the user saying: We are working together to > trying to figure out how to do it better. We need these tools. > > Whatever the best-practice model actually is, it'll be crowdsourced, > because people are unwilling to wait for easy 'crypto manna from > heaven', offered up on a plate. > > And frankly, the users have much to learn from the crypto experts and > it'd be a damn shame if knowledgeable people refused to teach or share > their expertise because ppl are "doing it wrong." > > We've known we've been doing it wrong for a long time now and going back > to Facebook to organise is no longer an option. > > The creation of CryptoParty was a spontaneous, viral storm. It was NOT a > concerted, centrally-organised campaign, with funding or even a > best-practice model. My hope is that experts contribute to eventually > provide a best-practice model, and that users give the necessary > feedback allowing for tweaks in tools and creation of more accessible > crypto. > > x. > > > On 8/10/12 8:35 AM, Brian Conley wrote: > > Greg its called orbot and it runs on Android. Secondly I used to agree > with > > you, but I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that user education, > not > > simplification, is the more important piece of the user security and > > privacy problem. That said, the tools do need to get more accessible, but > > we are getting there. I don't believe there has been as sizable a change > in > > public health and user information campaign efforts. > > > > I'm looking forward to digesting the cryptoparty manual and seeing > whether > > I can contribute anything in the form of copyediting or other assistance > to > > increase accessibility. > > On 7 Oct 2012 21:10, "Greg Norcie" <g...@norcie.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > > > -- > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >
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