On 12-10-09 1:53 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
Heather Marsh:
Yes, you are outlining two cases where you are communicating with people
you know as a person known to them. I am suggesting we (as in large
scale movements around the world) need to look more closely at data
driven (as opposed to personality driven) models ... ie if/when Tribler
gets onion routing working and an anonymous entity can drop data to a
hashtag (instead of a person), this is to me a more secure communication
model than one which relies on relationships between individuals, ie f2f
or other. Then we have to deal with voice amplification and astroturfing
issues, but it is the path I would rather proceed down than the trust
networks being advocated by for instance, OWS which are fairly obviously
problematic.
Well, sorta. I have quite a few jabber accounts and sometimes, one per
contact when I don't know them or when I do not want to be contacted at
all times. :)

With that said - I think GNUNet already does what you want re: hashtags
of data, doesn't it? I mean, you literally search for a SHA1
cryptographic hash - I guess GNUNet could call it a hashtag just for
hilarity...

It would be between gnunet and tribler, but tribler is in the lead for both scaleability, with 1.2 million downloads, and close to livestreaming on android etc., and features in their protocols which allow some really interesting applications for mass collaboration channels. Plus they are ahead working on p2p knowledge repositories which is the only way I can think of to combat unverified astroturfing in a system besides trust networks. We need something that can scale to handle protests in Madrid or Beijing with something close to real time messaging and streaming. This being the current alternative (jk). http://occupywallst.org/media-survey/

All the best,

Heather Marsh


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