Here's my prediction: Silent Circle will not fundamentally change anything. It 
will have no where near the impact that Phil's work on open cryptography 
standards has. It may be a great niche product for businesses, professional 
journalist groups and large NGOs looking for a turnkey solution. It will not be 
relevant for the majority people on the ground in high risk places with state 
based surveillance. It will not satisfy the most privacy concerned users in 
"free" countries either. 

Ultimately it is a *commercial product* aiming to package up complex 
capabilities into a promise of a tidy easy to use solutions. It is a worthy 
endeavor but there are many, many people out there trying to go the business 
route and I don't believe there is actually enough of a market for this to 
satisfy a venture capitalist or organic revenue to sustain itself. Cryptophone, 
WaveSecure, Cryptcell, IronKey, ZeroBank, Hushmail are just a few attempted 
similar efforts. All worthy efforts... but niche and ultimately not having the 
large impact we all might hope, and perhaps some even doing damage by promoting 
forked, out of date solutions.

I fundamentally believe you can't design a product both for CEOs and 
revolutionaries. The threat models are entirely different. You can't be all 
things to all people especially if you are charging 20 USD per user per month, 
on top of a users existing 3g data plan.


Nadim Kobeissi <> wrote:

>It would have been much nicer to create this thread based on real source
>code, instead of a tweet based on word of mouth. We'll see.
>On 10/11/2012 3:27 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:
>> Dan Gillmor @dangillmor: @kaepora Phil Zimmerman told me yesterday
>> that Silent Circle (contrary to what you say in your post) will
>> publish source code.
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