On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 09:26:05PM -0400, micah wrote: > Can't rely on them to be there for what exactly?
Just being there and responsive for the entire duration you need them. > Where is the liberatory technological element to recommending commercial The liberatory technological element is to use distributed services not linkable to a certain specific server or location. You're welcome. > services when they are more than happy when the "shit hits it" to bend > over backwards for law enforcement without bothering even questioning if Have you ever heard of bullet proof hosting? Do you think that snowshoe spammer and carder and malware hosters care a damn thing about the content they host? > the request is even legal because that would cut into their profits? I Very simple: they do not care whether it's legal. Their business model is that they don't care, as long as the account gets paid. > have to say I agree with ilf, this is pretty depressing for this list. You'll get used to it. I did. > How can anyone in good conscience recommend to activists commercial > services whose primary goal is to optimize for the bottom line? You How can anyone engage in strawmen of such appalling quality? > realize that when "the shit hits it" you can rely on them to not waste > any of their money fighting for you. Not that it matters, because they > are already deupitized data collection points for the police, building > into their money-making schemes keeping as much logs as they possibily > can to maximize profits from various advertising and surveillance > efforts. > > And really, Cloudflare? Comon. After their willingness to roll over on What about Cloudflare? Can't recall mentioning them. > the subpoena for Barret Brown and prentend that they were the internet's > saviors by making up that whole thing about how they saved the internet > from the biggest DDOS ever? > > This is an amazing statement: "free is distinctly unaffordable" -- what > meaning of "free" are you using here? There are other things that I'd Free, as in free beer. > pay *more* money for if it meant the kind of free that I'm thinking of > was in play... But this is 'liberationtech', right? Is the only thing > you are concerned about is being liberated from your money when doing > tech things? > > The cognitive dissonance here is deafening. How would you know? -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected] or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
