-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/09/13 10:00, Caspar Bowden (lists) wrote: > AFAIK Deleuze, Foucault et al. did not say anything specifically > about covert (mass-)surveillance, or analyse how the inherently > secret nature of such organizations might be a causal element in > theories of social control. Secret surveillance organizations are > NOT Panoptic in a technical sense - they normally don't want you to > know or fear they are watching (with tactical exceptions).
Is there anyone who's aware of overt surveillance and who doesn't at least suspect that some form of covert surveillance also exists? And isn't that suspicion enough to create a panoptic effect? The prisoners don't know whether they're being watched at any moment, or whether the watchtower is even occupied; the secret surveillance organisation, the existence of which cannot be confirmed, corresponds to the warden who may or may not be in the watchtower. Wasn't the NSA closer to the panoptic ideal when it was No Such Agency than now, when we know we're being watched? Cheers, Michael -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEbBAEBAgAGBQJSI6hYAAoJEBEET9GfxSfM27kH+Kt8FGxycdshcGVp9JAJmjTp JmCLCl+mdJFI+zn2T+evk+z28dKdfLg5Tia9+0u48PYxce41GsRJBs7xWVnLjEw5 e9sBOPTQVIjoy1QiD6jNijOozGA3VHOcTJkgCKGnRxHnPpR7OZ0amF2VUbDIS5YE e48RVNNEmu7RyWaHJw8q+NYJ30mJA7WJep0FlgfmbS8c8ZmJ3SlXOwmyZqHtSmUe pXqdIXRAwGlpfv5SH99JSuPk0m8CqNSNcS0nZWvtiqVerqTr4uMlXytz4mHv47HG 4mTAJ/vQ75nR7XH5s686sK9vSM5JHAf2a2LZUqUn3bYx5dTHpBkhsq9riBSMIA== =gUxM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected].
