-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 11/10/2014 02:12 PM, Jesse Krembs wrote: > I believe there is a distinct motivational conflict of interest for > Angel/VC folks, and liberation tech related ideas. > VC want a 100 mill return, lib-techers don't care, they want to change > the world. > > This isn't to say such things don't exist to certain degree, but either > party ends of making some serious core compromises to achieve closure.. > *** Indeed, there's an inherent conflict of interest. But free software, free hardware, and liberation technologies suffer a systematic lack of resources. If the only alternative to capital investment is either to rely on crowdfunding (i.e. pre-sales) or on DARPA/DoD/NSA/CIA funding, or EU funding, we cannot go much further: we're working with blood money.
You're not alone thinking about how to turn existing financial resources into community-empowering investments. There's a complete misalignment of values between profit-making ventures (supposed to be evil) and care-taking endeavors (supposed to be non-profitable). This needs to change, one way or another, because the profit motive is not going to take us off course of smashing against the solid wall of reality: infinite growth fueled by quantum jumps in technological progress won't prevent "progress" and "growth" from self-destroying our species. In science, when the theory do not match the experimental results, you change the theory, you don't insist on reproducing the same failing experiments over and over. But in business, apparent success (short term, revenue intensive market approval) seldom comes with actual sustainability (long term, reproducible and renewable, community-empowering, ecosystem-rich approval). So if investors actually care for their children's children, and other people's children, and the success of humanity on Earth as a species, they will realize that there's no exit strategy to this planet except death. Is growing capital now profitable? Yes. Is it profitable in the long run? Probably not. Is care-taking profitable? No. Can we make it profitable? That is the question. == hk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUYPfUXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ3MDM3QTJCNjlFNkMxQzA1NjI4RDUzOEZE OEU3QkQ4MDk0MUM4MjkzAAoJENjnvYCUHIKT7cEQALziT5SLdnkdqEkcT6mEdXjZ olNlNMHJ2F29d9CxY7XDWaK82ipMizIOojADyddGm0262QKFgh/uqABd8XmBQ/kG KTVV91HutXpaeiuvSQGh36j6cdN3QLkHtHIIp7Pf2AGd31xRRHNyw4zgNpWj8ELV SmydRmDeL5a9SHM6fIML8hHARjW1ELs0dQfXiXRPpOQZ02i0Yg5ee/daU1iK0FUz Yi3WgOvlE8t7mgbtbdJTGrrAaVrbevZ+0TWQZVxi406XAFjcIruaaWBLNCxIVY+c oPHrI9WKvgejhaCPmpAsiXLWc+4Xh5gQLKPDhP+k3QDuEJnWftih8eTsROBB683R N9UdrI60ArlZklTg/syx3QBFUWdR4bMr0FFK/Vr0CN+hIWDqfoOJ0PyrLBXdggex rrQwylwQaHROfMtKlkNqFJ9j18seTHPjeRbOi1/R9pBaBoMbteialwI+j4bb70GX EDGpp3SyaH5uMRrgbPF4qD5jOmc/URDoZp206gkRaR2fmkGwvaw82VGugHEJSt3h GZIH2k3ULf494E+5xkpXg1WWsgdQ0Ke+Jxu664QNWVJj5bOL8HGHwYnz7Owb2Axu xmlaoq5UMHldArg1XbTZdDZcFYYttzrNERIX0BXAgBXWr7XTS2jxK3isUQ7Ez0VJ WNJ2/4YvyX7vemzBOsCL =A5FU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected].
