I don't have "membership card" with my birth-date on, I only have driving license, health card and passport with my birthday on. I don't remember seeing any membership cards here with birthdate on.
Heather is raising important points. I also tried to have an alternative FB account and I was locked out there too two days ago. I wonder if someone is praying on me via my IP address. All of this is more than frustrating. Facebook should treat its users with basic respect. I feel none of that, Thank you, Inna On 2015-07-04 10:57 am, Heather Akers-Healy wrote: > Steve, I don't expect a public reply to the comments I'm writing below, but > perhaps internally at FB you might make some headway. > > You write: > > "Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of > acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued: > https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185 [1] > > For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail > would suffice." > > An activist using a pseudonym on Facebook and working in a country or > situation where it is dangerous to reveal their identity would be smart to > not have *any* personally identifying information tied to their account at > all. Facebook would do well to get rid of any name or identity requirements > and instead focus on how users are behaving. Reporting based solely on > behavior can still be abused so there should be some threshold to meet before > an account is suspended. Facebook is a large, profitable company. Surely they > can afford to beef up the staff handling account suspensions so that more > actual human review takes place *before* situations like these occur. > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Steve Weis <stevew...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work account. > > I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy. > > Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of > acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued: > https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185 [1] > > For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail > would suffice. > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina <p.i...@lycos.com> wrote: > > I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I > created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for > Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has over > 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children > evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and > don't pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos are > all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed > Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to > protect my family and people I work with outside social media from bullying > by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online were/are abundant. > > Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a > report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm my > name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter saying > that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my > identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can > show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can't > expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be > e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online. > > Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political blocking of > accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are constantly > cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition, which has > already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook > indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of > prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans > have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an > efficient tool of the Kremlin." > https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [2] > > Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and > has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected over > 40000 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not > using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize > enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name." > Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their accounts > while people with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go > without scrutiny." > https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts > [3] People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too. > http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993 > [4] > > Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends all > call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you should > be able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the policy "should be > able to support everyone using their own real names, including everyone in > the transgender community." > > So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is he > simply ignorant of what his staff does. WHEN WILL FACEBOOK START TREATING ITS > USERS WITH BASIC RESPECT, WHEN WILL IT STOP POLITICAL BLOCKING AND > DISCRIMINATION? > > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of > list guidelines will get you moderated: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech [5]. > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at > compa...@stanford.edu. > > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of > list guidelines will get you moderated: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech [5]. > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at > compa...@stanford.edu. 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