Wonderful work, Celso. We'd be happy to help you find volunteers at
Stanford and elsewhere, and I am sure that folks on other lists (cc'ed
above) would be willing to help you as well.

Thanks,
Yosem

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Celso Mireles <celso.mire...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Glad to see new energy around this idea of using technology to fight back
> against an oppressive system.
>
> I started an open source project to see if there was interest in
> developing an app that provides real-time verified alerts about immigration
> raids to people. I've gone through a couple of iterations of this idea.
>
> I'm sure I'm not the only or first one to think of something like this,
> but I first came across this idea while working at United We Dream and
> collaborating with MIT's Center for Civic Media on a project called
> Undocutech <https://www.facebook.com/undocutech>.
>
> Then the idea resurfaced while I was helping build some online
> infrastructure for Movimiento Cosecha <http://www.lahuelga.com/>. I
> started working on a prototype using Meteor.js, but felt discouraged by the
> lack of interest and haven't really worked on it. A couple of months ago, I
> refactored the prototype to use React.js, a modern front-end framework.
>
> That project is currently open-sourced, and on Github:* 
> https://github.com/Cosecha/redadalertas
> <https://github.com/Cosecha/redadalertas>*
>
> Open-sourcing it was an attempt at gaining attention/energy, and help in
> developing the project. However, considering the sensitivity of the
> subject, a serious solution would most likely need to be developed in
> private. I've already been faced with questions/concerns about the security
> of open sourcing an app like this.
>
> I've also realized through some iterations of a solution, that a mobile
> app is not really necessary. The core functionality of something like this
> can be accomplished with SMS. If anything, a web app can be used to present
> the data about where raids are happening. And that would allow for less
> attack vectors if there is no website, or app, to hack into.
>
> I must also admit that I'm not much of an organizer (or salesperson), so I
> never put prototypes in front of people to validate and get feedback from
> the people this solution would serve.
>
> For a project like this, more that just developers and designers would be
> needed:
>
>    - Project Managers
>    - Organizers to train people on using the tech, and work orgs on
>    pushing it to the public
>    - Fundraisers
>    - Maybe some lawyers to at least be conscious of the legal lines
>    something like this would blur
>
>
> A bit about myself:
>
> Born in Mexico, I've grown up in Phoenix since I was four. I'm currently a
> DACAmented person, and work as a full stack developer. I started out in the
> movement in 2009 while attending Arizona State University. After
> graduating, and being a farm-hand while having a Business Management degree
> for a few summers, I decided to go back to the city of Phoenix and start a
> business repairing computers.
>
> My involvement in the movement also led me to pick up graphic design
> skills, website skills, mainly because it was needed and I would volunteer
> for that kind of stuff. I eventually served as Online Coordinator for
> United We Dream around the time we started asking for administrative relief.
>
> While at United We Dream, I had the honor to meet Aaron Swartz (RIP) while
> he was at ThoughWorks. I remember him telling us about our ideas for apps
> (paraphrased) "Don't worry about whether it's technically possible. If the
> movement needs it, I can build it for you."
>
> That blew my mind.
>
> It inspired me to continue into my passion of design and technology. I
> moonlit some online courses for a year, then decided to be a freelance web
> developer to accelerate my learning. I did that for a couple of years. It's
> been a tough road, but I recently got a job as a web developer, where I am
> learning even faster, and want to put that knowledge to good use. And I
> think the time is right.
>
> I look forward to seeing something come to fruition.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Celso
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 2:31 PM Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes <
> alps6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I contacted Celso Salinas-Mireles, an immigration rights activist and
>> coder, about this, and he told me he has an open-source project that
>> tries to do just that, but he needs help in getting it going. So it
>> sounds like this is a great opportunity to jumpstart this badly needed
>> app and get it into the hands of millions of vulnerable people
>> residing in the US ASAP. Talk about a sense of urgency!
>>
>> He should be joining this list shortly, in the meantime I cc him here
>> so that he can catch up to the initial bits of conversation about the
>> topic.
>>
>> Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
>>
>> Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
>> <a...@acm.org>
>> +1 (347) 766-5008 <(347)%20766-5008>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
>> <alps6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm very close to the immigrant rights community, and I haven't seen
>> > anything like these mobile apps pop up. So far it's been hotlines and
>> > stuff..
>> >
>> > This reminds me of the comments of a journalist friend of Amy Goodman
>> > on election night: "Welcome to the rest of the world!" and here we go,
>> > apparently we need to adopt and adapt human rights defense mobile apps
>> > from the Iran resistance! ;-)
>> >
>> > I don't know if other people involved in immigrant rights are in this
>> > list, but an app along the lines of what's being talked about here is
>> > well overdue.. I started thinking of adapting the Ushua.. platform to
>> > track ICE once I paid a couple of week-long visits to the Rio Grande
>> > Valley in Texas, seeing ICE-TX State Trooper roadblocks and
>> > cooperation, and even TX National Guard tanks right at the border!
>> >
>> >
>> > Putting 2+2>4 together with the recent thread about doing something
>> > more with liberation tech than email DL, this is an opportunity to
>> > spin off an emergency project to come up with ideas and working
>> > prototypes of mobile apps to track ICE roadblocks and disseminate that
>> > info. I heard this morning from an authoritative source that these
>> > roadblocks are in effect in Austin TX whereby they stop motorists with
>> > the initial " tried-and-true" Arpaio style question: " your license!"
>> >
>> > Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
>> >
>> > Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
>> > <a...@acm.org>
>> > +1 (347) 766-5008 <(347)%20766-5008>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Lina Srivastava
>> > <l...@linasrivastava.com> wrote:
>> >> This discussion is something that really should be vetted privately
>> with
>> >> immigration groups working on this. There is a lot of fear stoking
>> migrants'
>> >> anxieties right now, and misinformation swirling about what's
>> happening. I
>> >> suggest connecting with United We Dream, Make the Road NY, or DRUM, for
>> >> example, before going too far down the road with thoughts of design or
>> >> development.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Yosem Companys <ycompa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Nithin Coca <privateemail2...@progressiveexchange.org>
>> >>>
>> >>> This is one case where we should look abroad for examples, as these
>> types
>> >>> of situations are not abnormal globally.
>> >>>
>> >>> I know that in Iran, there is a tool that is used for avoiding
>> morality
>> >>> police - something that should be easily adaptable to this case (and I
>> >>> believe is open source)
>> >>>
>> >>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gerd.app.gershad
>> >>>
>> >>> https://www.iranhumanrights.org/2016/02/gershad-app/
>> >>>
>> >>>> From: Craig A. Bowman <privateemail253...@progressiveexchange.org
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A few of us are also talking about using the ushahidi
>> >>>> (https://www.ushahidi.com) platform to do this. In conversations
>> with them
>> >>>> now about how it might work best.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 11, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Ms. Andrea Morales
>> >>>> <
>> >>>>
>> >>>> privateemail248...@progressiveexchange.org<mailto:privateema
>> il248...@progressiveexchange.org>>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > One easy way
>> >>>> of doing this would be to use Waze and add "police" check
>> >>>> > points
>> >>>> but add "ICE" in the description of the checkpoint itself.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > > On
>> >>>> Feb 11, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Mr. Dan Sisken
>> >>>> <privateemail191...@progressiveexchange.org> wrote:
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > An idea based on this week's
>> >>>> news about increasingly aggressive ICE
>> >>>> > actions targeting immigrant
>> >>>> communities.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Does anyone know of any examples of a mobile,
>> >>>> crowd-sourced app that
>> >>>> > could be used to pinpoint ICE checkpoints.
>> >>>> Such an app could be used to
>> >>>> > avoid ICE and for spontaneous
>> >>>> demonstrations.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > I don't have any connection to activists;
>> >>>> just putting the idea out
>> >>>> > there.
>> >>>
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