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2017-02-12 3:39 GMT-03:00 Yosem Companys <ycompa...@gmail.com>: > Wonderful work, Celso. We'd be happy to help you find volunteers at > Stanford and elsewhere, and I am sure that folks on other lists (cc'ed > above) would be willing to help you as well. > > Thanks, > Yosem > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Celso Mireles <celso.mire...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> Glad to see new energy around this idea of using technology to fight back >> against an oppressive system. >> >> I started an open source project to see if there was interest in >> developing an app that provides real-time verified alerts about immigration >> raids to people. I've gone through a couple of iterations of this idea. >> >> I'm sure I'm not the only or first one to think of something like this, >> but I first came across this idea while working at United We Dream and >> collaborating with MIT's Center for Civic Media on a project called >> Undocutech <https://www.facebook.com/undocutech>. >> >> Then the idea resurfaced while I was helping build some online >> infrastructure for Movimiento Cosecha <http://www.lahuelga.com/>. I >> started working on a prototype using Meteor.js, but felt discouraged by the >> lack of interest and haven't really worked on it. A couple of months ago, I >> refactored the prototype to use React.js, a modern front-end framework. >> >> That project is currently open-sourced, and on Github:* >> https://github.com/Cosecha/redadalertas >> <https://github.com/Cosecha/redadalertas>* >> >> Open-sourcing it was an attempt at gaining attention/energy, and help in >> developing the project. However, considering the sensitivity of the >> subject, a serious solution would most likely need to be developed in >> private. I've already been faced with questions/concerns about the security >> of open sourcing an app like this. >> >> I've also realized through some iterations of a solution, that a mobile >> app is not really necessary. The core functionality of something like this >> can be accomplished with SMS. If anything, a web app can be used to present >> the data about where raids are happening. And that would allow for less >> attack vectors if there is no website, or app, to hack into. >> >> I must also admit that I'm not much of an organizer (or salesperson), so >> I never put prototypes in front of people to validate and get feedback from >> the people this solution would serve. >> >> For a project like this, more that just developers and designers would be >> needed: >> >> - Project Managers >> - Organizers to train people on using the tech, and work orgs on >> pushing it to the public >> - Fundraisers >> - Maybe some lawyers to at least be conscious of the legal lines >> something like this would blur >> >> >> A bit about myself: >> >> Born in Mexico, I've grown up in Phoenix since I was four. I'm currently >> a DACAmented person, and work as a full stack developer. I started out in >> the movement in 2009 while attending Arizona State University. After >> graduating, and being a farm-hand while having a Business Management degree >> for a few summers, I decided to go back to the city of Phoenix and start a >> business repairing computers. >> >> My involvement in the movement also led me to pick up graphic design >> skills, website skills, mainly because it was needed and I would volunteer >> for that kind of stuff. I eventually served as Online Coordinator for >> United We Dream around the time we started asking for administrative relief. >> >> While at United We Dream, I had the honor to meet Aaron Swartz (RIP) >> while he was at ThoughWorks. I remember him telling us about our ideas for >> apps (paraphrased) "Don't worry about whether it's technically possible. If >> the movement needs it, I can build it for you." >> >> That blew my mind. >> >> It inspired me to continue into my passion of design and technology. I >> moonlit some online courses for a year, then decided to be a freelance web >> developer to accelerate my learning. I did that for a couple of years. It's >> been a tough road, but I recently got a job as a web developer, where I am >> learning even faster, and want to put that knowledge to good use. And I >> think the time is right. >> >> I look forward to seeing something come to fruition. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Celso >> >> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 2:31 PM Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes < >> alps6...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I contacted Celso Salinas-Mireles, an immigration rights activist and >>> coder, about this, and he told me he has an open-source project that >>> tries to do just that, but he needs help in getting it going. So it >>> sounds like this is a great opportunity to jumpstart this badly needed >>> app and get it into the hands of millions of vulnerable people >>> residing in the US ASAP. Talk about a sense of urgency! >>> >>> He should be joining this list shortly, in the meantime I cc him here >>> so that he can catch up to the initial bits of conversation about the >>> topic. >>> >>> Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato, >>> >>> Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes >>> <a...@acm.org> >>> +1 (347) 766-5008 <(347)%20766-5008> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes >>> <alps6...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > I'm very close to the immigrant rights community, and I haven't seen >>> > anything like these mobile apps pop up. So far it's been hotlines and >>> > stuff.. >>> > >>> > This reminds me of the comments of a journalist friend of Amy Goodman >>> > on election night: "Welcome to the rest of the world!" and here we go, >>> > apparently we need to adopt and adapt human rights defense mobile apps >>> > from the Iran resistance! ;-) >>> > >>> > I don't know if other people involved in immigrant rights are in this >>> > list, but an app along the lines of what's being talked about here is >>> > well overdue.. I started thinking of adapting the Ushua.. platform to >>> > track ICE once I paid a couple of week-long visits to the Rio Grande >>> > Valley in Texas, seeing ICE-TX State Trooper roadblocks and >>> > cooperation, and even TX National Guard tanks right at the border! >>> > >>> > >>> > Putting 2+2>4 together with the recent thread about doing something >>> > more with liberation tech than email DL, this is an opportunity to >>> > spin off an emergency project to come up with ideas and working >>> > prototypes of mobile apps to track ICE roadblocks and disseminate that >>> > info. I heard this morning from an authoritative source that these >>> > roadblocks are in effect in Austin TX whereby they stop motorists with >>> > the initial " tried-and-true" Arpaio style question: " your license!" >>> > >>> > Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato, >>> > >>> > Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes >>> > <a...@acm.org> >>> > +1 (347) 766-5008 <(347)%20766-5008> >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Lina Srivastava >>> > <l...@linasrivastava.com> wrote: >>> >> This discussion is something that really should be vetted privately >>> with >>> >> immigration groups working on this. There is a lot of fear stoking >>> migrants' >>> >> anxieties right now, and misinformation swirling about what's >>> happening. I >>> >> suggest connecting with United We Dream, Make the Road NY, or DRUM, >>> for >>> >> example, before going too far down the road with thoughts of design or >>> >> development. >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Yosem Companys <ycompa...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Nithin Coca <privateemail2...@progressiveexchange.org> >>> >>> >>> >>> This is one case where we should look abroad for examples, as these >>> types >>> >>> of situations are not abnormal globally. >>> >>> >>> >>> I know that in Iran, there is a tool that is used for avoiding >>> morality >>> >>> police - something that should be easily adaptable to this case (and >>> I >>> >>> believe is open source) >>> >>> >>> >>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gerd.app.gershad >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.iranhumanrights.org/2016/02/gershad-app/ >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Craig A. Bowman <privateemail253...@progressiveexchange.org >>> >>>> >>> >>>> A few of us are also talking about using the ushahidi >>> >>>> (https://www.ushahidi.com) platform to do this. In conversations >>> with them >>> >>>> now about how it might work best. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> 11, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Ms. Andrea Morales >>> >>>> < >>> >>>> >>> >>>> privateemail248...@progressiveexchange.org<mailto:privateema >>> il248...@progressiveexchange.org>> >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> > One easy way >>> >>>> of doing this would be to use Waze and add "police" check >>> >>>> > points >>> >>>> but add "ICE" in the description of the checkpoint itself. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > > On >>> >>>> Feb 11, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Mr. Dan Sisken >>> >>>> <privateemail191...@progressiveexchange.org> wrote: >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > An idea based on this week's >>> >>>> news about increasingly aggressive ICE >>> >>>> > actions targeting immigrant >>> >>>> communities. >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > Does anyone know of any examples of a mobile, >>> >>>> crowd-sourced app that >>> >>>> > could be used to pinpoint ICE checkpoints. >>> >>>> Such an app could be used to >>> >>>> > avoid ICE and for spontaneous >>> >>>> demonstrations. >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > I don't have any connection to activists; >>> >>>> just putting the idea out >>> >>>> > there. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. >>> Violations >>> >>> of list guidelines will get you moderated: >>> >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. >>> Unsubscribe, >>> >>> change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at >>> >>> compa...@stanford.edu. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Lina Srivastava >>> >> -- >>> >> twitter | linkedin | facebook | instagram >>> >> www.cielab.in >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. >>> Violations of >>> >> list guidelines will get you moderated: >>> >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. >>> Unsubscribe, >>> >> change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at >>> >> compa...@stanford.edu. >>> >> >> -- >> Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. 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