Eric is WRONG AGAIN here on a couple important points. First ZIONISM DOES play a large part in what's happening and WHY we should NOT play their game. It is the ZIONISTS who are STAGING terror to be BLAMED on their enemies. Next, NO we do NOT have the right to 'respond' to attacks on our soil by attacking the WRONG enemy we've then been TRICKED into attacking. THE MUSLIMS DID NOT DO IT! THE STINKING INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES DID! CIA / MOSSAD / MI6 And YES, WE DO HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES!!!
--- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who cares about Zionism? What does that have to do with this > discussion? > > One can be Pro-Israel's right to exist and totally against US > Government subsidies to Israel at the same time Joe? You confuse > the two issues. > > The more important question is whether or not you are Pro-Islamo- > Fascist? Or Pro-Islamo-Fascist by default, as in if you align > yourself with the Cindy Sheehans of the world and don't believe that > America had any right to respond to the Murderous Attacks on US Soil > on Sept. 11, 2001. > > > --- In [email protected], Joe Barnett > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry Charlie but zionists are the most anti-semetic bunch around > and most of them aren't even semites. Being critical of Israel's > insane murderous policies and staged terrorism doesn't make > one 'anti-semetic' it makes them a very discerning individual. > > > > > > > > Eric Dondero Rittberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Paul, you can't choose with Cindy. You have to accept the > whole > > kit and kaboodle or nothing at all. > > > > Stop being a coward. Go for the gusto. > > > > Anti-semitism and Pro-Islamo-Fascism is now the mantra of the Left > > and their allies in the Anti-War faction of the libertarian > > movement. Stop being a weenie. Defend your friends. > > > > Cindy is an Anti-Semite, why should you be one too? > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Bush is a lot of things. He's an idiot, a liar, a military > > deserter, > > > a corrupt asshole, a smarmy piece of crap, a jackass, etc. but I > > > highly doubt he's a "satanist". Quite the contrary, he's a > typical > > > southern born again Christian who thinks it's up to him to save > the > > > world from themselves even if he has to kill them to do it. > > > > > > Also, not one of the American troops is dying for Israel or even > > > defending Israel. The war in Iraq has NOTHING to do with > Israel. > > > Israel had nothing at all to do with September 11th, and all who > > claim > > > such are liars trying to spread conspiracy theories. > > > > > > It's nice to see that we can agree that Cindy Sheehan is a better > > > person than anyone in the Bush administration, but that's not > that > > > great of an accomplishment. She may be right about Bush and the > > war, > > > but she's wrong in her claims that this war is about defending > > Israel > > > and in her stupid claims that Israel has ever stolen any > > land...which > > > it has never done. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Larry Lawson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > It is actually Bush SATANIST Jr. who hates America and > Americans > > and > > > is working dilligently to DESTROY this country. The best way to > > > 'support our troops' is to BRING THEM HOME and stop having theim > > die > > > for Israeli and 'POPPY' Bush's business interests. > > > > > > > > Left vs. Right is a PHONY FALSE 'paradigm' designed to keep > the > > weak > > > minded embroiled in a phony argument. It's called the Hegelian > > > dialectec or DIVIDE AND CONQUER! People must see through these > > LIES > > > and work together. > > > > > > > > Sheehan is still a THOUSAND times a better person than any of > the > > > Bush's will EVER be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Knowing you dislike a brave, intelligent, and truthful woman > like > > > > Cindy Sheehan just makes me like her more. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > God damn Cindy Sheehan. She's a Leftist freak who hates > > America. > > > > > > > > > > Every libertarian should oppose her efforts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Victor Bozzo" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > God Bless Cindy Sheehan! > > > > > > > > > > > > "Every ambitious would-be empire, clarions it abroad that > > she is > > > > > conquering the world to bring it peace, security and > freedom, > > and it > > > > > is sacrificing her sons only for the most noble and > > humanitarian > > > > > purposes. That is a lie; and it is an ancient lie, yet > > generations > > > > > still rise and believe it." ~ Henry David Thoreau > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Home | About | Columnists | Blog | Subscribe | > > Donate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hypocrites and Liars > > > > > > by Cindy Sheehan > > > > > > by Cindy Sheehan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The media are wrong. The people who have come > > out to > > > > > Camp Casey to help coordinate the press and events with me > are > > not > > > > > putting words in my mouth, they are taking words out of my > > mouth. I > > > > > have been known for sometime as a person who speaks the > truth > > and > > > > > speaks it strongly. I have always called a liar and a > > hypocrite a > > > > > hypocrite. Now I am urged to use softer language to appeal > to > > a > > > > > wider audience. Why do my friends at Camp Casey think they > are > > > > > there? Why did such a big movement occur from such a small > > action on > > > > > August 6, 2005? > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't had much time to analyze the Camp > > Casey > > > > > phenomena. I just read that I gave 250 interviews in less > than > > a > > > > > week's time. I believe it. I would go to bed with a raw > throat > > every > > > > > night. I got pretty tired of answering some questions, > > like: "What > > > > > do you want to say to the President?" and "Do you really > think > > he > > > > > will meet with you?" However, since my mom has been sick I > > have had > > > > > a chance to step back and ponder what I started in Crawford, > > Tx. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just read an article posted on > LewRockwell.com > > by > > > > > artist Robert Shetterly who painted my portrait. The article > > > > > reminded me of something I said at the Veteran's for Peace > > > > > Convention the night before I set out to Bush's ranch in my > > probable > > > > > futile quest for the truth. This is what I said: > > > > > > > > > > > > "I got an email the other day and it > > said, 'Cindy, > > > > > don't use so much profanity; there's people on the fence > that > > get > > > > > offended.'" > > > > > > > > > > > > And you know what I said? "How in the world is > > anybody > > > > > still sitting on that fence? > > > > > > > > > > > > "If you fall on the side that is pro-George > and > > pro- > > > > > war, you get your ass over to Iraq, and take the place of > > somebody > > > > > who wants to come home. And if you fall on the side that is > > against > > > > > this war and against George Bush, stand up and speak out." > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what the Camp Casey miracle is all > > about. > > > > > American citizens who oppose the war but never had a conduit > > for > > > > > their disgust and dismay are dropping everything and > traveling > > to > > > > > Crawford to stand in solidarity with us who have made a > > commitment > > > > > to sit outside of George's ranch for the duration of the > > miserable > > > > > Texan August. If they can't come to Texas, they are > attending > > > > > vigils, writing letters to their elected officials and to > > their > > > > > local newspapers; they are setting up Camp Casey branches in > > their > > > > > hometowns; they are sending flowers, cards, letters, gifts, > > and > > > > > donations here to us at Camp Casey. We are so grateful for > all > > of > > > > > the support, but I think pro-peace Americans are grateful > for > > > > > something to do, finally. > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing I haven't noticed or become aware of > > though > > > > > is an increased number of pro-war, pro-Bush people on the > > other side > > > > > of the fence enlisting to go and fight George Bush's war for > > > > > imperialism and insatiable greed. The pro-peace side has > > gotten off > > > > > their apathetic butts to be warriors for peace and justice. > > Where > > > > > are the pro-war people? Everyday at Camp Casey we have a > > couple of > > > > > anti-peace people on the other side of the road holding up > > signs > > > > > that remind me that "Freedom Isn't Free" but I don't see > them > > > > > putting their money where their mouths are. I don't think > they > > are > > > > > willing to pay even a small down payment for freedom by > > sacrificing > > > > > their own blood or the flesh of their children. I still > > challenge > > > > > them to go to Iraq and let a soldier come home. Perhaps a > > soldier > > > > > that is on his or her third tour of duty, or one that has > been > > stop- > > > > > lossed after serving his country nobly and selflessly, only > to > > be > > > > > held hostage in Iraq by power-mad hypocrites who have a long > > history > > > > > of avoiding putting their own skin in the game. > > > > > > > > > > > > Contrary to what the main stream media thinks, > I > > did > > > > > not just fall off a pumpkin truck in Crawford, Tx., on that > > > > > scorchingly hot day two weeks ago. I have been writing, > > speaking, > > > > > testifying in front of Congressional committees, lobbying > > Congress, > > > > > and doing interviews for over a year now. I have been pretty > > well > > > > > known in the progressive, peace community and I had many, > many > > > > > supporters before I even left California. The people who > > supported > > > > > me did so because they know that I uncompromisingly tell the > > truth > > > > > about this war. I have stood up and said: "My son died for > > NOTHING, > > > > > and George Bush and his evil cabal and their reckless > policies > > > > > killed him. My son was sent to fight in a war that had no > > basis in > > > > > reality and was killed for it." I have never said "pretty > > please" > > > > > or "thank you." I have never said anything wishy-washy like > he > > > > > uses "Patriotic Rhetoric." I say my son died for LIES. > George > > Bush > > > > > LIED to us and he knew he was LYING. The Downing Street > Memos > > dated > > > > > 23 July, 2002, prove that he knew that Saddam didn't have > > WMD's or > > > > > any ties to Al Qaeda. I believe that George lied and he knew > > he was > > > > > lying. He didn't use patriotic rhetoric. He lied and made us > > afraid > > > > > of ghosts that weren't there. Now he is using patriotic > > rhetoric to > > > > > keep the U.S. military presence in Iraq: Patriotic rhetoric > > that is > > > > > based on greed and nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I am being vilified and dragged through > the > > mud by > > > > > the righties and so-called "fair and balanced" mainstream > > media who > > > > > are afraid of the truth and can't face someone who tells it > by > > > > > telling any truth of their own. Now they have to twist, > > distort, > > > > > lie, and scrutinize anything I have ever said when they > never > > > > > scrutinize anything that George Bush said or is saying. > > Instead of > > > > > asking George or Scotty McClellan if he will meet with me, > why > > > > > Aren't they asking the questions they should have been > asking > > all > > > > > along: "Why are our young people fighting, dying, and > killing > > in > > > > > Iraq? What is this noble cause you are sending our young > > people to > > > > > Iraq for? What do you hope to accomplish there? Why did you > > tell us > > > > > there were WMD's and ties to Al Qaeda when you knew there > > weren't? > > > > > Why did you lie to us? Why did you lie to the American > people? > > Why > > > > > did you lie to the world? Why are our nation's children > still > > in > > > > > harm's way and dying everyday when we all know you lied? Why > > do you > > > > > continually say we have to "complete the mission," when you > > know > > > > > damn well you have no idea what that mission is and you can > > change > > > > > it at will like you change your cowboy shirts? > > > > > > > > > > > > Camp Casey has grown and prospered and > survived > > all > > > > > attacks and challenges because America is sick and tired of > > liars > > > > > and hypocrites and we want the answers to the tough > questions > > that I > > > > > was the first to dare ask. THIS is George Bush's > > accountability > > > > > moment and he is failing miserably. George Bush and his > > advisers > > > > > seriously "misunderestimated" me when they thought they > could > > > > > intimidate me into leaving before I had the answers, or > before > > the > > > > > end of August. I can take anything they throw at me, or Camp > > Casey. > > > > > If it has the chance to shorten the war by a minute or saves > > one > > > > > life, it is worth it. I think they > > seriously "misunderestimated" all > > > > > mothers. I wonder if any of them had authentic mother-child > > > > > relationships and if they are surprised that there are so > many > > > > > mothers in this country who are bear-like when it comes to > > wanting > > > > > the truth and who want to make meaning of their child's > > needless and > > > > > seemingly meaningless deaths? > > > > > > > > > > > > The Camp Casey movement will not die until we > > have a > > > > > genuine accounting of the truth and until our troops are > > brought > > > > > home. 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