Mary Dolan wrote:
> "Overpopulation" problems exist where there are too many UNPRODUCTIVE people

Correct. However, to be productive people need the use of sufficient "land" 
(natural resources), and "capital" (tools, technology, infrastructure). 
Labor is not enough if there isn't anything to apply the labor to. There is 
also an issue of depletion. It is not just whether some biosphere is 
momentarily overpopulated, but whether the current population is sustainable 
in the long term. By that standard, the planet is overpopulated, if the only 
land and capital expected to become available is the kind available now, 
namely that based on surface agriculture and scattered living on the surface 
of the planet.

As I have pointed out in an early paper, "Three Futures for Earth", 
http://www.pynthan.com/vri/3f4e_002.htm , there is an alternative, but it 
would involve housing all people and their economic activities in sealed, 
compact cities, probably sited below the surface, which operate like 
multi-generation starships, completely self-contained in materials, using 
only a little energy (probably geothermal). It is open living on the surface 
that is nonviable in the long term, a grim prospect for those of us who 
prefer to live in the open.


-- Jon

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