"Outer fringes" being defined as principled libertarians.

David Macko

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 12:21 PM
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Ron Paul


> Or, maybe Ron Paul is no David Dreier.  I used to like Ron.  Used to 
> think he was a great libertarian.  Lately, I've been having my 
> doubts.
> 
> Dreier has a much better image.  He's much more media friendly.  And 
> his views are much more reflective of the Mainstream of the 
> libertarian movement than are Ron Paul's, who is more on the outer 
> fringes of libertarianism.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "hrearden_hr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Flake is no Ron Paul. Drier is no Ron Paul.
>> 
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>> --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > It's easy for those of you without principles to tell those of 
> us who
>> > live by our principles to "stop worrying" about them because they
>> > don't have any guts.  
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg"
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > He's got a Lifetime 75 score on the Liberty Index which puts 
> him 
>> > > right smack dab in the middle of the Libertarian Quadrant.  
> Not Ron 
>> > > Paul-Jeff Flake territory but very respectable.
>> > > 
>> > > Look, if the LP is to ever hope to get anywhere they MUST 
>> > > MODERATE!!!  They must attract more folks like Drieir.
>> > > 
>> > > And besides you totally miss the point.  Typical LP response.  
> All 
>> > > you care about are issue stances and philosophy.  
>> > > 
>> > > IT'S ALL ABOUT IMAGE Buster!!!  Stop worrying so much about 
> whether 
>> > > someone is hardcore enough of a libertarian.  And start 
> worrying 
>> > > about how they appear on TV and what political credentials 
> they have.
>> > > 
>> > > Sheesh!  Are you LPers ever, ever going to get it??  Or are 
> every 
>> > > single one of you guys total political knuckleheads?
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > --- In [email protected], "James Landrith" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > Dreier is an apologist for the REAL ID Act, which is a de 
> facto 
>> > > national ID
>> > > > card scheme.  Support for such a system of databases and 
> domestic
>> > > > surveillance capabilities kind of spits in the face of self-
>> > > sovereignty.
>> > > > 
>> > > >  
>> > > > 
>> > > > Contrary to the spewings of certain liberpublicans, Dreier 
> is 
>> > > nowhere near
>> > > > Ron Paul with regards to respect for self-ownership.
>> > > > 
>> > > >  
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
> __________________________________________________________________
>> > > > James Landrith
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>> > > > The Abolitionist Examiner -  
>> > > <http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/>
>> > > > http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/
>> > > > From: [email protected] 
>> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> > > > Behalf Of jgo456
>> > > > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 3:26 PM
>> > > > To: [email protected]
>> > > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Ron Paul
>> > > > 
>> > > > > "steven  linnabary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > >> From: "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > > >> Ron is way too old.  Believe me, he is not up to
>> > > > >> a Presidential run...
>> > > > 
>> > > > Yah, the last couple times I've seen him in hearings via 
> CSPAN he's 
>> > > > certainly looking a little older and wearier. But he's still 
> well-
>> > > > spoken.
>> > > > 
>> > > > >> Why don't you concentrate on someone more realistic
>> > > > >> like Cong. Jeff Flake of Arizona or Cong. David Dreier
>> > > > >> of California.  Both are just as libertarian, younger,
>> > > > >> more appealing candidates.
>> > > > 
>> > > > > Even an old blind sow finds an acorn once in a while. 
>> > > > > Eric has an excellent idea, to urge Jeff Flake to
>> > > > > run for POTUS.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Flake and Dreier don't have the chops, or the name 
> recognition.
>> > > > And I'm suspicious of how libertarian they really are.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Why not take it a step at a time and get them into the 
> senate.



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