Yes, Cheney is very much a socialist... aka authoritarian.   Those who
would use government to give advantages to certain businesses, or who
would use businesses to further their political goals, are not
capitalists by any means.


--- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> You call Cheney a socialist?
> Anna
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: M.A. Johnson 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:12 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....
> 
> 
>   Anna
>       Reality is that  American capitalists have waged a war
>       in Iraq  to protect the trade in petrodollars. Can you
>       really separate  ideology in action from ideology on paper?
>       If a goal and reality are apart, then  obviously something
>       is wrong with the goal one has.
> 
>   MJ
>   The above, of course, is FANTASY.
>   In reality, America's variant of socialists have waged war
>   in Iraq.
> 
>   Regard$,
>   --MJ
> 
>   If I had to point out the characteristic trait that
>   differentiates socialism from [a proper view of the
>   political economy], I should find it here. Socialism
>   includes a countless number of sects. Each one has
>   its own utopia, and we may well say that they are so
>   far from agreement that they wage bitter war upon one
>   another. Between M. Blanc's organized social workshops
>   and M. Proudhon's anarchy, between Fourier's
>   association and M. Cabet's communism, there is
>   certainly all the difference between night and day.
>   What then, is the comon denominator to which all forms
>   of socialism are reducible, and what is the bond that
>   unites them against natural society, or society as
>   planned by Providence? There is none except this:
>   They do not want natural society. What they want is
>   an artificial society, which has come forth full-grown
>   from the brain of its inventor... They quarrel over
>   who will mould the human clay, but they agree that
>   there is human clay to mould. Mankind is not in their
>   eyes a living and harmonious being endowed by God
>   Himself with the power to progress and to survive,
>   but an inert mass that has been waiting for them to
>   give it feeling and life; human nature is not a subject
>   to be studied, but matter on which to perform experiments.
>   -- Frédéric Bastiat
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