Yes it is absolutely just. It is right and it is fair. One man with an idea can employ thousands of people. A man with a skill looking to work but with no ideas must hope for the man with the idea to give him the job.
--- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the whole issue: > Is the physical work worth more than thinking or doing deals? The same? > You claim that the guy who does the thinking deserves to get more. > This means that the worker's effort in building the house is worth less than the guy's who did not lift a finger doing the construction job. > Is it just? > Anna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:28 AM > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > Nobody is being "duped" or unfairly taken advantage of in your > example. The person who takes the risks deserves the rewards. The > person who built the contractor company with his own money deserves > the profits. > > The person who agrees to take a job for $10/hr is agreeing that this > is the value of his labor. He isn't being lied to about the job > conditions, or what would be expected of him. He voluntarily takes > the position for the agreed upon sum. How much money the contractor > collects for the job is irrelevant to the amount the worker is paid. > > The money would fairly be divided by giving him $10/hr and for the > contractor to keep $40/hr for his labor. > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Good question, what is an exploitation then? > > I would say robbing others of their honest pay for an honest effort, > or duping less privileged into accepting a deal which will rob him of > what is owned them fair and square. But, what is fair and square? > > Example: two men seek work. They decide to form a contractor team. > One seeks the contracts, the other does the physical job. > > The guy who seeks contracts charges 50 dollars per foot of a > finished home. But since the ongoing rate for a physical work is 10 > dollars , this is how much he will pay his partner/worker himself > taking the rest. > > How do you think the money should be divided? > > Anna > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: M.A. Johnson > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > Anna > > Financial competition fosters greed and > > exploitation. Show me one example where > > it does not. > > MJ > > What is 'greed'? > > In a mutual contract, who is 'exploited'? > > > > Anna > > Capitalism on the other hand thrives on these traits. But > > it does not mean that the results can be positive. Financial > > competition without a sense of inner justice must always > > end in violence. To remedy, you need the laws. But... when > > you introduce too many laws, it no longer is libertarian, is it? > > > > MJ > > When you introduce laws (Government intervention), it is > > no longer Capitalism, but instead another variant of > > Socialism. > > > > Regard$, > > --MJ > > > > There is simply no other choice than this: either > > abstain from interference in the free play of the > > market, or to delegate the entire management of > > production and distribution to the government. > > Either capitalism or socialism: there exists no > > middle way. -- Ludwig von Mises > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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