Anna, you've never heard of 'fasting' for spirituality?  :)  

-Terry Liberty Parker 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian 


--- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Terry, it is hard to be spiritual when one is hungry. Most 
spirirual people have money. 
> Anna
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Terry L Parker 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 6:32 PM
>   Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....
> 
> 
>   For SURE, financially poorer, 
> 
>   BUT usually spiritually wealthier  :) 
> 
>   -Terry Liberty Parker 
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian 
> 
> 
>   --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   >
>   > Yes, but how do you prevent exploitation of the needy ones? One 
>   person may have 10 kids to support, another 1.
>   > When they apply for the job,  the pay offered may be  good 
enough 
>   for a single kid parent, but not the other parent.
>   > Would you say then the choice of having so many kids means that 
a 
>   person chooses to be poorer?
>   > Anna
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Paul 
>   >   To: [email protected] 
>   >   Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:59 PM
>   >   Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   WE don't decide.  THEY do.  If they apply for a job and are 
>   offered a
>   >   job, they can negotiate with the business what their salary 
is 
>   worth
>   >   based on their skills, education, and experience.  If the 
business
>   >   isn't offering what they want, they don't have to take it.  
They 
>   can
>   >   apply somewhere else.  If they accept the offer, they are 
agreeing
>   >   that this is the value of their labor.
>   > 
>   >   The market and free will determine the value.
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>   >   >
>   >   > Mark, some people may need a job, any job and this  gives a 
>   chance
>   >   for abuse by employers. 
>   >   > So my question was, how we decide the values and worth? 
>   >   > 
>   >   > Anna
>   >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   >   From: mark robert 
>   >   >   To: [email protected] 
>   >   >   Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:07 AM
>   >   >   Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
>   >   >   Ana,
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
>   >   >   You need to go ask the two who are engaged in the business
>   >   >   relationship. I assume you will be told "yes". Or save 
>   yourself
>   >   >   the effort and deduce your answer by observing their 
actions -
>   if
>   >   >   it's not just, why would we be voluntarily doing it?
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
>   >   >   -Mark
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
>   >   >     _____  
>   >   > 
>   >   >   This  is the whole issue:
>   >   >   Is the physical work worth more than  thinking or doing 
deals?
>   >   >   The   same? 
>   >   >   You claim that the guy who does the thinking deserves to 
get
>   >   >   more.
>   >   >   This means that the worker's effort in building the house 
is
>   >   >   worth less than the guy's who did not lift a finger doing 
the
>   >   >   construction job.
>   >   >   Is it just?
>   >   >   Anna 
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
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