No, the idea combined with the drive and courage to move forward with it is worth the most.
--- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, so the mind is worth the most, right? > Anna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:54 AM > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > Yes it is absolutely just. It is right and it is fair. One man with > an idea can employ thousands of people. A man with a skill looking to > work but with no ideas must hope for the man with the idea to give him > the job. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is the whole issue: > > Is the physical work worth more than thinking or doing deals? The > same? > > You claim that the guy who does the thinking deserves to get more. > > This means that the worker's effort in building the house is worth > less than the guy's who did not lift a finger doing the construction job. > > Is it just? > > Anna > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Paul > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:28 AM > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > Nobody is being "duped" or unfairly taken advantage of in your > > example. The person who takes the risks deserves the rewards. The > > person who built the contractor company with his own money deserves > > the profits. > > > > The person who agrees to take a job for $10/hr is agreeing that this > > is the value of his labor. He isn't being lied to about the job > > conditions, or what would be expected of him. He voluntarily takes > > the position for the agreed upon sum. How much money the contractor > > collects for the job is irrelevant to the amount the worker is paid. > > > > The money would fairly be divided by giving him $10/hr and for the > > contractor to keep $40/hr for his labor. > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Good question, what is an exploitation then? > > > I would say robbing others of their honest pay for an honest effort, > > or duping less privileged into accepting a deal which will rob him of > > what is owned them fair and square. But, what is fair and square? > > > Example: two men seek work. They decide to form a contractor team. > > One seeks the contracts, the other does the physical job. > > > The guy who seeks contracts charges 50 dollars per foot of a > > finished home. But since the ongoing rate for a physical work is 10 > > dollars , this is how much he will pay his partner/worker himself > > taking the rest. > > > How do you think the money should be divided? > > > Anna > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: M.A. Johnson > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:51 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > Financial competition fosters greed and > > > exploitation. Show me one example where > > > it does not. > > > MJ > > > What is 'greed'? > > > In a mutual contract, who is 'exploited'? > > > > > > Anna > > > Capitalism on the other hand thrives on these traits. But > > > it does not mean that the results can be positive. Financial > > > competition without a sense of inner justice must always > > > end in violence. To remedy, you need the laws. 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