In an economicly stagnant homogenous socalist society like Norway, people kill themselves. In an economicaly stagnant heterogenious socialist society, like France, people kill others.
--- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Or to socialist Norway? > Anna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anna > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > and how about comparing it all to American slums? > Anna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:13 PM > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > Actually, I've travelled all over the world, and without exception, > the socialist and communist nations I've been to have a lower standard > of living, the people are desperate to earn a living, they would give > their own mother for the chance just to live in America. I've been > all over Europe, Asia, and South America so I've got plenty to compare to. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You must be joking, I have been living in USA for over 230 years. It > is not a matter of a personal view, but a comparative view. > > Perhaps your beliefs are caused by the fact that you have nothing > else to compare to. > > Anna > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Paul > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:56 AM > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > Yes, and sadly for you, you weren't. Perhaps this is why you have > > such a hard time understanding concepts like freedom, capitalism, and > > art. They are more abundant here than anywhere else. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > You must be then raised in USA. > > > Anna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Paul > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:39 PM > > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > > > > Yes, I have been to a real opera. I've been to several and most > > > aren't as entertaining as a good movie. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Perhaps to you, have ever been to a real opera? > > > > Anna > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Paul > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:51 AM > > > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Movies are most certainly art. They are every bit as much > > > > an artform as painting, sculpture, dance, poetry, > > > > and dance performance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Movies are not art, although they give a pretense of being > > an art. > > > > > It is a craft. > > > > > Anna > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: mark robert > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:00 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Giving us your personal artistic preference does little to > > defend > > > > > your bizarre claim that capitalism doesn't value art. > Neither > > > > > does giving us your bizarre opinion that America has no > > culture. > > > > > All these prove is your narrow taste. You deny the fact > > that the > > > > > capitalist West produces by far the most art and > artists. You > > > > > deny movies, actors, music, musicians, etc. Jacob's > Ladder and > > > > > Dark Side of the Moon are amongst the greatest of all > artistic > > > > > masterpieces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Under communism, art flourished. For example, neither > Bolshoi > > > > > Ballet nor Kirow could ever achieve the artistic > > excellence they > > > > > had when they were not "free". 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