Mark, no - 
you just do not understand the point I am trying here to make. All theories 
usually fail because they do not take into consideration human psychology.  
While a  free market capitalistic society where people decide about the fruits 
of their  work sounds like an ideal model, nevertheless it creates huge 
inequalities which as a consequence will not allow the system to function as 
planned.  Where is inequality, there is potential for violence . No society can 
be a success if it is plagued by riots and crime. The only solution would be to 
 preventatively pacify the potential troublemakers, and this requires a system 
of welfare and other social services, which are not exactly fitting into a free 
social model as proposed.
Your shortsightedness is understandable though.   You are idealist who thinks 
that to have a paradise, all it takes is to make people free to earn money and 
enjoy it.  You do not take into consideration the jealousy and greed of those 
who have less, but believe should have more.  To keep the troublesome elements 
in order, the system would have to allow for expansion of  militia powers. The 
more militia, the more potential for corruption. There will be always someone 
who has more money than you to pay to enforce  his own way over yours.  To have 
a regime in order to have a  minority to enjoy the fruits of their labor is a 
moral suicide.   
It is not true that humans are inherently good, rather they are good unless 
they see an opportunity to profit by being bad.  Being bad can also  bring well 
earned profit.  It is only a moral issue how it was earned. As I have read 
somewhere, many Mafioso consider themselves to be the honest capitalists.  
Who do you think tortures people in Iraq and elsewhere, some demons? No, the 
honest good  people. A potential for evil is in every man and given an 
opportunity, it will blossom. Inequalities create such opportunity.
Do you see a way out?

Anna




----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mark robert 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:25 PM
  Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....


  Anna,



  When your points are refuted, you reply as below. How
  contradictory! If there ever was an ideal-society theory that
  failed, it was the one you generally persist in defending. 



  -Mark



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  It is, in ideal society. But a theory even the best, never works
  the same in real life.
  Anna


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