Anna,
Precisely the opposite: Libertarian concepts are based ON human psychology, and therefore WORK. By "work", I don't mean they magically bring forth a perfect paradise or utopia. I only mean "work better than any other alternative". I only mean LESS crime, LESS misery, LESS total societal harm - than other competing systems. You use a common dissenter's trick: point out imperfections and use them as excuses to disregard the whole system (even though the system defended is a proven worse one). I understand your point, but you are making more than just a case for computerment. Since plenty of your statements indicate a serious misunderstanding of humanity and government, and a sentiment for socialist systems, you are your own best argument against computerment. If YOUR program were to rule the world, it would follow the same dire path of taking a small problem and "solving" it with a general increase in total societal harm. Your program would follow history's (and your) path: misidentify the source of the problem, magnify it, legislate a force-based non-solution, cause a worsening of the problem and much collateral damage, use said worsening as an excuse to retain and increase legislation, and of course steal from the public to make them pay for it all. Your short sight is not understandable. Since you live in America you should know that the main source of today's violence and crime is the government's drug war; not inequality or any other unavoidable element of civilization. Your fear of society being overrun by troublemakers is as baseless as your understanding of the source of the trouble. Certain criminal elements will probably always be a part of human societies, but only as a very small percent. Enacting far more destructive legislation as a "solution" is the real source of the trouble. Your statements about mob & war violence display incredible misunderstanding. I'm sure other here will elaborate more on the destructive power of prohibition and war. -Mark _____ Mark, no - you just do not understand the point I am trying here to make. All theories usually fail because they do not take into consideration human psychology. While a free market capitalistic society where people decide about the fruits of their work sounds like an ideal model, nevertheless it creates huge inequalities which as a consequence will not allow the system to function as planned. Where is inequality, there is potential for violence . No society can be a success if it is plagued by riots and crime. The only solution would be to preventatively pacify the potential troublemakers, and this requires a system of welfare and other social services, which are not exactly fitting into a free social model as proposed. Your shortsightedness is understandable though. You are idealist who thinks that to have a paradise, all it takes is to make people free to earn money and enjoy it. You do not take into consideration the jealousy and greed of those who have less, but believe should have more. To keep the troublesome elements in order, the system would have to allow for expansion of militia powers. The more militia, the more potential for corruption. There will be always someone who has more money than you to pay to enforce his own way over yours. To have a regime in order to have a minority to enjoy the fruits of their labor is a moral suicide. It is not true that humans are inherently good, rather they are good unless they see an opportunity to profit by being bad. Being bad can also bring well earned profit. It is only a moral issue how it was earned. As I have read somewhere, many Mafioso consider themselves to be the honest capitalists. Who do you think tortures people in Iraq and elsewhere, some demons? No, the honest good people. A potential for evil is in every man and given an opportunity, it will blossom. Inequalities create such opportunity. Do you see a way out? Anna _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
