It has a mind of its own and a brain that thinks by the 4.5 month of gestation and also has a body that can feel pain. I was under the impression that the motto of libertarians is NO HARM. Anna
----- Original Message ----- From: Paul To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:27 PM Subject: objective vs subjective Re: [Libertarian] Re: Socialism/Capitalism of the A Actually a fetus is sort of like a cross between a tapeworm and a tumor. It has no more rights than your liver does. If you want to remove your liver, nobody has any legitimate right to tell you you can't, especially your liver. --- In [email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does a tumor have rights equal to its host? No. Not that it's > perfectly analogous to a human fetus. Logically, a fetus would > have more rights than a tumor. It's not that a fetus does not > have rights; it just does not have as much as the mother. > Everything is relative in this regard. Don't think "yes"/"no", > "all"/"none", etc - think "more"/"less". The issue is tough, > unique, marginal, and endlessly contentious - but that is > precisely why to leave legislation and enforcement out of it and > leave the burden on the shoulders of the mother. > > > > > > > > _____ > > As the Dude on the Deuce postulated in 1776, all Men are created > equal and > are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights. > > Not "born" equal. Created equal. The baby has a human mother and > a human > father and therefore is not likely a giraffe. The baby could die > in the > womb and therefore is alive, because one of the prerequisites for > dying is > that you must be alive to do it. The baby is a living human > being. The > mother's Creator-given right to sole control of her body has been > pre-empted by her Creator for the time being by endowing the baby > with the > right of parasitic feeding, just as the kid's Creator-given right > to > liberty is later restricted by the mother's Creator-given right > to > restrain the kid in a stroller at the mall. > > Tell your kindergarten kid to invite a classmate to live with > you, and the > classmate accepts, and see how long it is before the government > dispatches > gun-toting goons in bulletproof vests to enforce the parents' > right to > raise their kid. ("That to secure these Rights, Governments are > instituted > among Men...") You were violating the parents' Creator-given > right to > raise their child. Likewise, the Creator-given right of the baby > to life > can be enforced by the State. > > Tom Alciere > smart person with correct opinions > > > > > > _____ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian SPONSORED LINKS E government Libertarian E government strategy Libertarian party E government procurement ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
