Geof, 

 

Regarding your last question: Do you not acknowledge that
ethics/morality can come from common sense / intellect / logic
alone?

 

-Mark

 

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I can buy most of your reasoning.

The only thing I have trouble with is that you try to deny that
Western
morality is based on Judeo Christian principles.

Not to kill, not to steal, not to covet the private property of
your
neighbor.  All these things are the basis of the ethics of life
and liberty.

These colonies, and the states which they became were settled by
Puritans.
They were versed in the Calvinist and Lutheran traditions which
opposed the
need for priests and Popes to achieve grace and salvation.

Thomas Paine spoke out against the churches of nations.  That is
exactly
what the 1st Amendment was designed to prevent.  Of that, there
is no doubt.
They may not have based the law on the Bible as law, but that
heritage is
what formed their morality.

To then infer that the Founders morality is not based on their
own Judeo
Christian heritage, as followers of Christ, not the Christian
church makes
no sense.

Their morality did not spring from some pagan well.



For the sake of argument, if they intended to completely discount
the
teachings of Christ and the Deity as a source of morality, then
from whence
does Western morality and ethics come?  

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