"3) What does the war in Iraq have to do with my discussion about tariffs?"
Simply that it is disingenuous to state, "I support using force against those who violate the rights, person, or property of non-consenting others.", when your previous statements indicate you don't give a darn about the liberty of many others. If you meant what you said, you wouldn't cling so violently to statements regarding the absolute nature of the NAP. Support for the initiation of force against those who violate rights, persons, and property is support for the use of force to accomplish social and politcal ends. This is a direct contradiction of the NAP. These examples are used to highlight a lack of consistency in philosophy. And, of course, the Libertarian justification for war (any war), is self defense. It is not a requirement of the NAP to wait for a dictator to fully execute threats before eliminating that threat. We can argue wheather threats made were credible and actions taken were the best choice, but self defense is a firmly established Libertarian principle. --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], <geofgibson@> wrote: > > > > "Your claims that I'm supporting the initiation of force are utterly > > false. I support using force against those who violate the rights, > > person, or property of non-consenting others." > > > > Unless they happen to be brown people in a country half way around > the world, when, without a dubiously stated need for a previous > declaration of war by Congress, it would be an illegal interference in > a foriegn country's affairs, right? :) > > > > 1) What does being brown have to do with anything? > > 2) I don't support the war in Iraq, in fact I consider the president > guilty of treason for starting it (among other things), and have > stated many times that the war is Unconstitutional, that nobody in > Iraq is defending America, that all the soldiers in Iraq have violated > their oath, that starting this unprovoked, unwarranted, and > unconstitutional war makes America every bit as bad as Saddam....if > not worse. > > There is no libertarian justification for the war in Iraq. > > > 3) What does the war in Iraq have to do with my discussion about tariffs? > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
