Paul.. If I have tresspassed state how, I have stated how you have supported the use of force, but you do not state how I tresspass, and you can't Paul, the reason is... if you look back at allll of my posts related to this, I have not made one opinion hear. I have not expressed my point of view on anything, only challenged you to admit to your own.
Your attempt to reverse it is, I hope, terribly transparent to all as there is no way to contort the words written in this text to say I want anything other than for you to adress your contradictory statements, let alone to suggest I want to commit a tresspass. I can understand why you would not want to adress the proprty rights side of this issue given the difficulties it posses to your stance, but you can not pretend it does not exhist, and attempting to turn the issue into an attack on me is not productive. Every one else... Having chastized Paul, it is only fair I explain how my persuit is productive to discussion... Paul was extreemly agressive and abusive to those expressing the idea that there can be limited-Libertarians or liberal-Libertarians or conservative-Libertarians or any for of libertarian that does not agree with Paul for that matter. Paul stated that a Libertarian is a Libertarian and any oen deviating from its core is not a Libertarian. With Paul's stance supporting the goverments initaition of force in teh realm of sales tax, Paul supported a limited use of force, non consensual taxation, then when called on it, he attempted to defend it with ill contrived logic. When that failed he was silent for several days till his own words had been burried deeper in the forumn, then returning using his classic tactics of derailing thoughts to serve his own agenda or ego. I don't say Paul is not a Libertarian, Paul himself says that he can not possibly be a Libertarian. Luckily for Paul, just like in his beliefe that the goverment has the right to impose tax, thus making that inposition not a use of force, I believe Paul is also wrong in saying he can not possibly be a Libertarian. Now I know Paul is to stubborn, and likley does not have the attention span to do more than skim over what I right when its more than a paragraph, there are others who also felt including 'imperfect' Libertarians into the fold would be an act of agression, some even going so far to claim some evil plot to destory the philosophical triumph of Libertarianism... *cough cough* We have to always keep in mind that every one does not view the wold in the same way, and Liberty for all can not come from one mans view of Liberty. There are many points of view as to what the best steps to achieving the most liberty for the most people, there are even conflicting points of view on that very statement, as some may argue that a little less liberty for the most, if it means alot more liberty for the remaining few, should be considered. While Paul may not open his mind, I call on those of you who will to learn from his example, and be open to the ideas of others, of all others around us, so that we can move forward productivley in the direction of Liberty. --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will not allow you to change the topic to a property rights issue > when it is not one. It is a trespass issue, and you want to trespass > onto other Americans. YOU want to initiate force against them. YOU > promote aggression against other Americans. Until you address this, I > will not even consider your personal property claims. > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
