Tghose of Us that want a principled party may have no reasonable
choice but to split. Really it would be better the reformers could
get more votes I don't doubt that and they may advance liberty and
reduce government, the purist will get more votes because they would
finally be voting with a party of
principle.
Look The Rasmussen Poll showed around 15% of voters are
libertarians, Classic Liberals, Constitutionlist and libertarian
leaning people are even more, yet most of these people vote for
others including the libertarians and those who say they are
libertarian, many if not most don't vote but a big percentage of them
would if they had someone to vote
for.
The other best option to a split is to pull away the endorsement
of anyone running for office or holding office if they don't follow
the party line via the platform and the oath, if the reformist
candiates don't like it and are not willing to follow it then they
would have no other choice than to move
on.
Personally I think most of the reformers are honest people but I
suspect there is either government interest and or other powerful
interest behind these reform efforts. It really appears A German
neoliberal think tank with a lot of cash was behind the take over of
the party in Costa Rica ( go to the Free State Project board for
discussion and links on this take over).--- In
[email protected], "David Macko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I still think that it would be better to avoid a split until
> we reduce government to some level where our differences
> are meaningful in relation to a real political campaign.
>
> For life and liberty,
> David Macko
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "terry12622000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:33 PM
> Subject: [Libertarian] Re: New Libertarian Party -> American
Libertarian
> Party
>
>
> > David I disagree, I think the numbers of votes will improve with a
> > divorce between the reformers and the purist. At least the
reformers
> > can't blame the purist anymore if they fail. It probally would be
> > better for the reformers to join the RLC or the Democrat counter
> > part, or as a independent ( which is the way many states list all
> > non Republicans and Democrats anyway). If the reformers really
think
> > they have the talent to get votes and advance liberty with their
> > gradulist polcy then they have the chance to prove it, when the
fail,
> > they can't blame the purist and we can tell them " see there we
told
> > you it would not work". If their policies make improvements we can
> > always tell them with fair certainty," yeah but far from
> > enough".
> > I actually think the purist will get more votes to without
the
> > reformist candiates and office holders because those who want a
> > pricipled party and candiates that follow those principle will
have
> > nothing to do with the LP the way it
> > is.
> > To give one example Tony St. James has a fairly new show on
WGOW-
> > fm talk radio 102.3 in Chattanooga, Tennessee on saturday
mornings,
> > this morning he said he approves of the LP priniciples and the
> > platform but he gets the impression the party goals are no better
> > than the Democrat and Republican Parties goals get people in
power in
> > Washington so they can tell others what to do. --- In
> > [email protected], "David Macko" <dmacko@> wrote:
> >>
> >> It is highly unfortunate that there appears to be a split in the
> >> Libertarian Party of Florida. This cannot benefit anyone except
> >> enemies of liberty. I hope that all of you can get together and
> >> straighten out this problem. Remember Benjamin Franklin's
> >> admonition that we must all hang together or we will all hang
alone.
> >>
> >> For life and liberty,
> >> David Macko
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Franklin Perez" <perezfranklin@>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:04 PM
> >> Subject: [Libertarian] New Libertarian Party -> American
> > Libertarian Party
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hello Folks:
> >> >
> >> > I have just gone to the website of the Florida Division of
> > Elections at
> >> > the
> >> > http://election.dos.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/ComHtml.exe?
account=42227
> >> > hyperlink
> >> > and noticed that there is a new Libertarian Party that has
> > registered with
> >> > the Florida Division of Elections.
> >> >
> >> > It's chairman is none other than James Coakley, an individual
> > that has had
> >> > his share of problems with the Libertarian Party of Seminole
> > County
> >> > Florida
> >> > (LPSC) as well as the Libertarian Party of Florida (LPF). It's
> > initials
> >> > are
> >> > LBT. As you all know, James Coakley has been helping me out
with
> > my run
> >> > for
> >> > Florida State House (District 33) by distributing some of my
> > campaign
> >> > literature. (Note: You may read about my problems with the LPSC
> > and LPF by
> >> > going to the
http://www.geocites.com/fperez2006/why_npa_eng.html
> >> > hyperlink.)
> >> >
> >> > I have spoken about this new political party with James
Coakley.
> > Has has
> >> > stated to me that this new party, called the American
Libertarian
> > Party,
> >> > shall have a Libertarian political philosophy but that its main
> > purpose
> >> > shall be to actively run and encourage candidates to run under
> > their party
> >> > label so long as they hold Libertarian political principles.
This
> > attitude
> >> > is in sharp contrast with the Libertarian Party of Florida,
whose
> > main
> >> > goal
> >> > seems to be to not want to run or encourage ANY political
> > candidates to
> >> > run
> >> > under its banner.
> >> >
> >> > I think that this new American Libertarian Party will be a VAST
> >> > improvement
> >> > over the current Libertarian Party of Florida because it will
not
> > stand in
> >> > the way of its candidates from running for political office. It
> > will
> >> > actually ENCOURAGE Libertarian-leaning people to run under its
> > banner and
> >> > will not set up roadblocks to keep them from running.
> >> >
> >> > So folks, if you are disgusted with the political nonsense and
> > manure that
> >> > is ocurring with the Libertarian Party of Florida and wish to
> > join a REAL
> >> > Libertarian party, please consider joining the American
> > Libertarian Party.
> >> >
> >> > I would like to congratulate James Coakley for having the
> > conviction to
> >> > set
> >> > up this new political party.
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely,
> >> >
> >> > Franklin Perez (No Party Affiliation)
> >> > Florida State House Candidate (District 33) - Year 2006
> >> > Libertarian Minded and Independent! Not Beholden to Party
> > Politics!
> >> > http://www.geocities.com/fperez1776
>
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