Steven, YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Wrong.
For Steven's comment that it's all about our interventions in the past in the Middle East has just ROYALLY PISSED ME OFF. Steven, you and I have met in our past life. We've spoken on the phone. I find you to be a well-meaning and sincere libertarian. WHY IS IT THAT YOU AND OTHERS LIKE YOU PERSIST IN THIS IDIOTIC CLAIM THAT THE REASON THE MUSLIMS HATE US IS BECAUSE OF OUR FOREIGN INTERVENTIONS IN THEIR COUNTRY??? Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. It has little if ANYTHING to do with that. I've lived in the Middle East (9 months in Bahrain). I speak Arabic. I live in Houston, which has a large Arabic population, and I work RIGHT SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF HOUSTON'S LITTLE SOUTH ASIA (Pakistanis, Jordanians, Moroccons, Egyptians, et.al). They hate us for our Culture, plain and simple. It's all about Sex. We get it and they don't. Young Arab men, particularly non-wealthy Arab men, have little if any access to women. They are extremely envious of American men who get sex whenever they want. They watch our movies, they watch MTV, they watch Britney Spears, and their hormones rage. And rage they do against Americans who have easy access to sex AND Israelis with their topless beaches, hot sweaty nightclubs, and Co-ed drinkfests til the wee hours of the morning. Steven DID YOU NOT READ ABOUT THE MURDER OF THEO VAN GOGH IN THE NETHERLANDS A COUPLE YEARS AGO? Did that have ANYTHING at all to do with "American troops stationed in Saudi Arabia?" Hell no! That Murlim murdered Van Gogh because of a film he made supporting rights of women in the Middle East. Did you not witness what happened in France back in October with the massive riots by Muslim Youth? Did that have anything to do with "Americans invading Iraq?" Hell no, it had everything to do with Muslim youths being shunned by young French women, and lack of job opportunities for them so that they could gain more wealth where they could possibly attract young French women. Do you see what's going on all throughout Europe with Muslims clammering for bans on topless beaches, ends to legalized prostitution, and tough drug laws that would send all drug dealers and users to jail for long sentences? Steve, give up this absurd notion that the reason the Muslims hate us is because of our interventionist foreign policy. IT'S ALL ABOUT SEX AND CULTURE. Imo, any sane libertarian would see that and oppose these authoritarian elements among Muslims with all their 11th Century horrobly repressive views with all their strength. [ModeraterNote: I edited (re-phrased) the above sentence to comply with, not only this forum's policy, but Yahoo's prohibitions too. As originally submitted, it was a call for some sort of American 'Jihad' against ALL Muslims. -TLP ] --- In [email protected], Cory Nott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some years ago my then wife and I knew a nice young woman - very pretty, very kind at heart. She had alot of personal troubles and did not pick her men well. Well, the last one she picked got her into heroin, and one night while out on a drug deal with him they were both brutally, and, for her, slowly murdered by a drug dealer they were attempting to buy from. > > Did that change my mind on the drug war? Did I suddenly decide that all drugs are intrinsicly evil and that we should throw more money and more resources and more lives at the drug war? Should we put to death all dealers and perhaps even hard core users? Hell no - if we didn't have our drug laws, there would be no tremendous profits to be made by the most violent in our society and my friend might well be alive today. Even if she were hooked on heroin, at least it would be cheap and clean and not the dangerous stuff that's cut with all sorts of chemicals and kills people over time. > > I feel the same way about 9/11. Why is it that the terrorists are attacking us? Is it because they "hate freedom"? No, it's because of western intervention in the Middle East over the last 100 years. I will grant that I find Islam somewhat worrisome in it's treatment of non-Muslims and that we should be on guard against religious extremism and any demands that Islamists or others put on our legal system. > > > > Eric Dondero Rittberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So Steve, question. > > Would your attitude be different if you had had a friend or relative > who died in the Twin Towers, at the Pentagon, or on the 4 airplanes > on 9/11? > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
