Aha!  And this is where you and I have a serious disagreement.  

The conflict is NOT between Islam and Christianity, it's between 
Islam and Secularism.  

The Muslims don't hate us so much because we are "Christians" they 
hate us because we are so Secular - Darwinist, Modernist, ect...

Think about it.  Darwinism will destroy every vestige of Islam, just 
like it's doing today to Christianity.  

Don't you think young Muslims in Med Schools in Cairo, Amman, and 
Tehren are having to learn about evolution?  How can they avoid it?  
Don't you think the Mullahs are scared shitless over this fact?


--- In [email protected], "David Macko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:51 AM
> Subject: [Libertarian] Re: I LOVE THE DUTCH!! Check this out!!!
> 
> 
> > David, that's so simplistic.  They are still going to receive our
> > satellite broadcasts of our sexy television, be able to purchase 
our
> > video games in their Bazaars, and read our media about our open 
and
> > tolerant culture (Gay marriage, Mardi Gras, Swingers, Topless
> > beaches, ect..).
> 
> They can turn them off or not read them.   DM
> >
> > You think if we just pull-out completely from the Middle East, 
the
> > Muslims are all of a sudden not going to be able to access our
> > culture?
> >
> > You think they still won't harbor resentment?
> 
> Some may but it will be more difficult to recruit suicide bombers
> if we are no longer there.    DM
> >
> > 'Nother question David.  The Europeans don't have troops in the
> > Middle East (except for a few British, window dressing Danes and
> > Poles).
> >
> > How do you explain the massive Muslim hatred of Europe and 
European
> > values?  And the Europeans are certainly no friends of Israel 
(with
> > the possible exception once again of the Brits).
> 
> I don't think that anyone on this list ever maintained that there 
have
> never been conflicts between Islam and Christendom (or what used to
> be Christendom). However, if you fight with your neighbor and then 
move
> away, there is much less incentive for either of you to continue 
the fight,
> especially if you become much less dependent on him for resources,
> such as energy.
> I do not know whether the neocon and jihadist enemies of humanity 
have gone
> so far that World War III is inevitable, but I think that we should
> take the rational steps which I mentioned to try to avoid it, 
especially 
> concerning
> the consequences if we do not.
> 
> For life and liberty,
> David Macko
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "David Macko" <dmacko@> 
wrote:
> >>
> >> Obviously, the solution is not to be the Moslems' neighbors.
> >> Lets get out of the Middle East and inaugurate rational
> >> immigration policies. Most of all, lets stop helping their
> >> primary enemy, the Zionist state of Israel
> >>
> >> For life and liberty,
> >> David Macko
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Geof Gibson" <geofgibson@>
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 4:21 PM
> >> Subject: [Libertarian] Re: I LOVE THE DUTCH!! Check this out!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> The reason they hate us is BECAUSE of our foreign 
intervention
> > in the
> >> >> middle-east which has cost the lives of millions of Muslims.
> > It's not
> >> >> for any other reason.  It's not because of our women, our
> > freedom, or
> >> >> any other reason.  That is a fact.  He probably persists on 
the
> >> >> truthful and intelligent claim that they hate us due to our
> > foreign
> >> >> policy because it's the truth and he's not a fool.
> >> >
> >> > That is patently absurd.  The jihadis have killed far more
> >> > non-Americans in India and S. Asia and that has NOTHING to do
> > with
> >> > ANYTHING the US has ever done.
> >> > The reason there is terror is because some Muslims can not get
> > along
> >> > with their neighbors.  Period.  End of story.  Until 
confortable,
> >> > middle class (and above) Americans get that through their 
heads,
> > we
> >> > will not be able to move past this.
>








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