You have me on record saying the same thing I said the last time you asked. There was absolutely, positively, no Iraqi connection to the Oklahoma City bombing. I'm not saying Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols acted alone, because I personally believe they had little to nothing to do with the bombing.
--- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll try this again Paul. > > Do you wish to go on public record with stating categorically, that > in your view Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols acted completely alone in > blowing up the Oklahoma City Murrah Fed Bldg? > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: > > > > It wouldn't matter if Iraq murdered 100 million Kuwaitis, that > would > > not be justification for using the U.S. military to get involved. > > Also, THERE WAS NO MUSLIM CONNECTION WITH THE OKLAHOMA CITY > > BOMBING....ESPECIALLY NO CONNECTION TO IRAQ!!! > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, you are correct in one sense. There were far worse human > > > rights violations committed in other countries around the globe > in > > > the 1980s and 1990s than in Iraq. Sudan, Somalia and Ruwanda to > be > > > exact. But of the 3 only Ruwanda tops Hussein's murderous > numbers. > > > And this libertarian believes that it was an ABSOLUTE TRAGEDY OF > > > MAGINICENT PROPORTIONS that Bill "Burn them Waco Whackos Alive" > > > Clinton was spending so much time in 1994 and 1995 worrying > about > > > how to smash out David Koresh and cover up for the Muslim > connection > > > to the Oklahoma City bombing, that he totally and completed > ignored > > > the massive carnage in Ruwanda. > > > > > > Are you asking me if the US was more justified to go into > Ruwanda > > > than Iraq? Yes! > > > > > > But then again, consider that the Huutus never committed > genocide > > > outside of their borders. Hussein did, by brutally murdering > > > upwards of 60,000 Kuwaitis. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" > > > <uncoolrabbit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Far worse human rights issues persist in other countries that > are > > > > not assaulted by the US, many US allies even have serious > humans > > > > rights issues, the invasion did not stop human rights probelms > in > > > > Iraq and lastley the US has its own human rights issues that > it > > > > needs to adress. There is no sense in a justification that, > since > > > > your killing your population, we are going to kill them now > > > isntead, > > > > while killing our own in the process. > > > > > > > > I would gladley jump on the side of Liberation over Tyranny > but I > > > am > > > > not so naive to think that the Republican wagon is Liberation. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > No, the US was justified in invading Iraq, for one, and one > > > reason > > > > > only; the massive human rights violations of Saddam, Uday, > Qusay > > > > and > > > > > their henchmen. Just as bad as Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge. As > the > > > > > world's only remaining superpower it is OUR responsibility > to > > > stop > > > > > human genocide on the planet. That is inherently a very > > > > libertarian > > > > > position, and it's amazing many libertarians have chosen to > put > > > > > themselves on the side of totalitarian dictators instead of > on > > > the > > > > > side of liberation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" > > > > > <uncoolrabbit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing Paul said below contradicts that Iraqi's > statement. > > > > None > > > > > of > > > > > > sadams chemical weapons were found, that includes any that > > > made > > > > it > > > > > > to Syria. It is no secret that Iraq had chemical and > > > biological > > > > > > weapons. The real crime of the administration is falsely > > > leading > > > > > the > > > > > > people to believe IRaq was actively developing new > wweapons, > > > > > > including nuclear ambitions, which was not the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, what does the statement have to do with calling Paul a > > > liar? > > > > > The > > > > > > Iraqi does not know where they went, only supporting Paul > in > > > his > > > > > > claim that no WMDs were found in Iraq. It IS a fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aside from the specifics of Pauls statements validity, > what > > > else > > > > > are > > > > > > you trying to get at? That the administration is justified > in > > > > > > invading Iraq over a past and now dead chemical and > biological > > > > > > weapons program, and that traces off that prgram, > including > > > the > > > > > > undestroyed products of that program, products the US has > > > aswell > > > > > and > > > > > > has been slowly destroying for years, are all the > > > justification > > > > > > needed, while that same administration tolerated a real > > > program > > > > to > > > > > > develop nuclear weapons in North Korea? This war had > nothing > > > to > > > > do > > > > > > with Iraq's arsenal, get over it. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero > Rittberg" > > > > > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And so Paul, you are claiming then that you know more > about > > > > what > > > > > > > actually happened to the WMDs than the 2nd in Command of > the > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > Air Force who a few weeks ago, in an interview, stated > > > > > > categorically > > > > > > > that "we shuffled them all off to Syria two months > before > > > the > > > > > > > invasion..."? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you calling the guy a liar Paul? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't find anything ridiculous about the > indisputable > > > FACT > > > > > that > > > > > > > > there were no WMD's found. Not even non-WMDs like > mustard > > > > gas > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > found. Only the components that could be used to make > > > > mustard > > > > > > gas > > > > > > > > were found. So once again, NO WMDs WERE FOUND. > That's > > > not > > > > an > > > > > > > attack > > > > > > > > on the President. IT IS A FACT and those who claim > > > > otherwise > > > > > are > > > > > > > > woefully misinformed or completely dishonest and most > > > likely > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > apologists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Geof Gibson" > > > > > <geofgibson@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" > > > > > > <txliberty@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geof, attack message, NOT messengers, in THIS > forum! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Terry Liberty Parker > > > > > > > > > > Owner/moderator, > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry. I try my best to attack ridiculous > arguments > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > personal reference. > > > > > > > > > I will re-double my efforts to remain impersonal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
