And "If men were angels, no government would be necessary." (James 
Madison, Federalist 51, Feb. 6, 1788) You are calling for nothing less 
than a general change in human nature, with no one omitted from the 
change. The people who would accept your argument are the ones who don't 
need it, and are not the problem. What you need to do is find a way to 
reform all the recalcitrant criminals and predators, and do so reliably 
and pro-actively. Nor is t enough to tell people to maintain the truce 
until someone else violates it, if the available means to violate it 
would render one unable to respond. Sometimes one has to deter or 
prevent assaults, and to use force to do that.
There is such a thing as righteous or just violence, even the initiation 
of it in some circumstances. Reality is far too complex to admit of 
simple rules of conduct. Rules, like theories, need to be "as simple as 
possible, but no simpler". (Einstein) Where humans are concerned, that 
is not at all simple, but vastly complex, involving thousands or 
millions of factors, all interacting in complex feedback loops. Indeed, 
so complex as to be beyond the cognitive capacity of humans to 
adequately comprehend, and further complicated by the lack of complete 
and accurate information about the situation.

-- Jon

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