Some of us view none of the below as the greatest threat, and furthermore do not believe the greatest threat would make the second greatest threat irelevant. I do agree that this could go round and round forever for you all though.
--- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul, we're never going to solve this. We are going to keep going > round and round and round and round. You and others here see the > federal government, particularly the government headed by Bush as the > greatest threat to American freedoms, I and others here view Islamo- > fascism as the greatest threat to our freedoms. > > My side, at least speaking for myself, is never going to give up the > term libertarian to your side. I will never surrender it, > especially considering that I've devoted 22 years of my life now to > builing this libertarian movement. > > You will literally have to kill me first, to get me to surrender the > term libertarian. > > So, what's the solution here? > > There's NO shame whatsoever, in you and others like you calling > your philosophy Anarchist. Why do you resist this? It's truth in > labeling. Why are you so against coming out four square and > announcing to the world what you're philosophy is? > > We clearly cannot continue being in the same political movement. > > And as witnessed by my side crushing yours at the very latest > Libertarian Party of California Convention, it's you that has to > rethink your position and future. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: > > > > 1. There's nothing wrong with that. > > > > 2. Who cares? This is no different than the old man who ran over > > people at the Farmer's market in L.A.. He was a nut. > > > > 3. Another nut whose murder had nothing to do with his religion. > > Should I name the many Christians who have murdered people here in > > America for each one that happens to be Muslim? > > > > 4. Borders did the right thing in not carrying something that > might > > upset thier customers. > > > > 5. It's really hard to gague his intentions after he's dead. He > was > > most likely a suicidal kid which happens a lot and you have > absolutely > > nothing to support your baseless claims that he intended to murder > > people. > > > > 6. So what? There are those who preach violence against Muslims > too, > > just like you do. > > > > 7. Again, so what? None of this means anything. There are > increased > > numbers of rapes? What a Muslim conspiracy!!! > > > > 8. You've put together a list of 7 things that don't prove > anything > > and don't even come close to proving anything other than your own > bigotry. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > Mark, granted the threat from Islamo-Fascism at the moment is > much > > > more severe in Western Europe, there are still many instances > where > > > it is raising its ugly head here in the US: > > > > > > 1. the City Council of Hamtramac, Michigan last year voted to > allow > > > a Muslim Mosque in the City Center to blare the Muslim > Prayer "Allah > > > Akubar" 5 times a day despite the passioned please opposing the > > > proposal from the majority Catholic Polish citizens of the town. > > > > > > 2. Just 3 weeks ago a Muslim Youth shouting "Allah Akubar" ran > over > > > 8 college kids on the Village Green at the Univ. of North > Carolina > > > with his SUV. > > > > > > 3. 2 years ago a Black Muslim named John Muhamed in Maryland > shot > > > and killed 8 people with his rifle over the span of a two month > > > period. > > > > > > 4. Borders Books, a major US Bookstore Chain just cowered to > Islamic > > > pressure and decided to ban the sale of the May/June issue of > Free > > > Inquiry, cause it contained Danish cartoons of the "Prophet > > > Muhammed." > > > > > > 5. Last year a Muslim Univ. of Oklahoma student blew himself up > on a > > > park bench outside of a crowded football stadium. Though the > > > authorities denied it, most believe his intentions were to set > the > > > bomb off inside the stadium killing thousands. > > > > > > 6. Louis Farakhan preaches his hateful rhetoric against Jews to > > > thousands of followers on a daily basis. > > > > > > 7. Big City police departments throughout the US are starting to > > > report a marked increase in cases of female genetalia > mutulation, > > > rape in some cases slavery of young Muslim women by Muslim men > > > importing the women from the Middle East. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "mark robert" <colowe@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Geof, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we may have an evolving distortion away from the > original > > > > topic. I thought we were talking about the threat of Islam > > > > terrorism IN AMERICA, not other countries. I don't think > > > > providing evidence of terrorism in other countries (even if > your > > > > information is all correct) does anything to establish your > claim > > > > that it is a greater threat in America than our own form of > > > > religious (Christian) terrorism called the drug war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ > > > > {American jurors have complete Constitutional authority to vote > > > > "not guilty" based on nothing more than a disagreement with the > > > > case, no matter the evidence - despite the judge's > instructions. > > > > There is absolutely no obligation to vote "guilty" to arrive > at a > > > > unanimous verdict. Get on a jury, stand your ground, and > fulfill > > > > its other main purpose: to counteract abusive government and > > > > unjust lawsuits. > > > > See www.fija.org > > > > [Please adopt this as your own signature.] } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But you cling to the utterly false belief that Muslims on the > > > > other > > > > > side of the world who want nothing other than to stop being > > > > murdered > > > > > and screwed with by the United States are more of a danger to > > > > > Americans, than the drug war right here in America which has > > > > cost more > > > > > lives each year than all Muslim terrorist acts ever > committed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have never refuted, as far as I have read, that the > > > > Islamofascists > > > > state they want to establish a worldwide caliphate and rule by > > > > sharia. > > > > Do you have some psychic ability to determine they don't mean > > > > what > > > > they say? > > > > What about India? There have been more Hindus killed by > > > > authoritarians using Islam as their pretext than there have > been > > > > other denominations and nationalities. You canstantly repeat > > > > that Muslim extremism is all the fault of the US, but > > > > Islamofascists hate and kill everyone of all faiths wherever > they > > > > have determined the infidel must die. How is this the fault of > > > > the US? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
