I supported going after the Taliban, Al Quedia and the violent 
faction of Islam but it is very unwise to send a bull (The Pentagon) 
into a china shop to pick out dishes for your daughters weeding. It 
puzzles me that those libertarians who were for the war understand 
the problem of Central top/ down monoply management when it comes to 
schools and the economy but are unwilling to see the folly in 
backing  the very  eneffective, wasteful and costly Penatgon in their 
foreign ventures. I guess a lot of libertarians are blind to the 
problems of there favorite government program but it basically gets 
down to arguing what should be taught in public schools. The correct 
answer of course would be nothing should be taught in government 
schools because there should not be any government schools. 
Seperation of powers dicates that the  US miltary and the state miltia
( which should be build up and trained) should except on the rare 
occasion stay home and defend the US against massive invasion. 
Homeland Security would be better done  by the county or local 
governments and the private sector and the local miltia's ( which 
should be build up and 
trained.                                                 
      Foreign ventures would be best dealt with by private groups 
either for profit or non profit, the US miltary should only help when 
it is actually constitutional to do so and they would not get in the 
way of the private groups doing their job. Private groups should be 
held legally and finacally reponsible for their actions, the fullest 
liablity possible. It very well may be we want to limit the liablity 
of the President,and Congress and the US miltary forces which would 
be another good reason to seperate out foreign ventures to the 
private sector.--- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero 
Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Good point.  So then, why don't we see the Anti-War Libertarians 
> ever attacking Islamo-Fascism?  Why the silence from their camp 
> about the murder of Theo van Gogh, the Muslim riots in Paris, the 
> Muslim guy in the SUV on the UNC campus?  
> 
> Why no solutions from their side as to how we could stop Islamo-
> Fascism outside of waging war on them?  
> 
> And no, retreat would only encourage them even more.  That's not a 
> solution.  
> 
> What's the Anti-War Libertarian solution to stopping Islamo-
> Fascism.  I'm super curious???
> 
> --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" 
> <uncoolrabbit@> wrote:
> >
> > The point I would make, wich moved me to respond to the thread is 
> > that just as being pro war does not nesesarily go hand and hand 
> with 
> > pro libertey, being anti war also does not nesasarily mean you do 
> > not recognize the dangers of islamic extreemism. It can be as 
> simple 
> > as a different view point on how to best adress that danger Geof.
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Geof Gibson" <geofgibson@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" 
> <uncoolrabbit@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And I see the staunch Bush supporters blinded, by what I am 
> not 
> > so 
> > > > bold to single out ot one thing, nor do I have time to list 
> some 
> > of 
> > > > the many possible factors. I will say that the facts are that 
> > Bush 
> > > > policy has not resulted in greater protection. I will argue 
> that 
> > my 
> > > > personal opinion is that Bush policy has decreased american 
> > > > security, and damaged personal liberties and the american 
> > economy. 
> > > > So go on blind if you desire, both left and right. Hopefully 
> > > > libertarians will keep there eyes open to tell when you are 
> > about to 
> > > > walk off a cliff or into a wall.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Good idea to keep our eyes open.  And please, don't mistake my 
> > ability
> > > to see the threat of Islamofascism as staunch or even lukewarm 
> > support
> > > for Bush.  Bush is not a conservative and has been a great
> > > disappointment on many things including the unconscionable 
> > expansion
> > > of Medicare.  I recently read an interesting article by Fred 
> Barnes
> > > defining Bush as a 'strong government conservative.'  I believe 
> > this
> > > to be an accurate descrition but philosophically inconsistent 
> with
> > > fundamental principles of conservatism.
> > > 
> > > You can be of any political philosophy and still identify the 
> > threat
> > > of Islamofascism.  It is the solutions we advocate which 
> > differentiate
> > > us.  Of course, anyone can deny the threat as well.  Only 
> history 
> > will
> > > be the final judge.
> > >
> >
>






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