Paul is correct here, although there are politicians pushing to make English the accepted language of the US. I certainly wouldn't go for that simply because many Americans speak English.
William --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > False. English is not the common language of America. America has no > common language. The language of America is English, Spanish, French, > German, Dutch, Greek, Italian, Polish, Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese, > Russian, Swedish, Hindu, Arabic, Hebrew, etc. > > Many Mexican people have learned English, and many don't. The same > was true of the European immigrants. Some of them didn't learn > English for several generations. Most were treated harshly and they > retreated into neighborhoods of their own people to escape from this > kind of oppression. They felt welcome with their own people and their > own language, even in a new country. > > Learning English doesn't make you more American. It doesn't mean you > try harder. English is most certainly not the common language either. > > > > --- In [email protected], "hrearden_hr" <HRearden@> wrote: > > > > > > > > English is the common language in the U.S.A. I think many Mexican > > immigrants might be different than European immigrants in the sense > > that many Mexican immigrants have made less of an effort to adopt > > the existing culture of the U.S.A. Historically European immigrants > > have been much more eager to adopt the culture than many Mexicans > > who have immigrated to the U.S.A. have been. Historically for > > example European immigrants have learned English which is the common > > language. > > > > $ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: > > > > > > *** NEWSFLASH *** > > > > > > English is NOT the language of America and the Mexican immigrants > > now > > > aren't trying to force thier language onto anyone, aren't trying to > > > annex any part of America, aren't a drain on the economy, aren't an > > > invasion force, and aren't different than the European immigrants > > in > > > any way. The only thing that's different are the unconstitutional > > > laws which have been made since then. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "David Macko" <dmacko@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree with you that it was despicable to talk Dr. Hospers into > > > > supporting Bush for reelection and the lie-based, > > unconstitutional, > > > > unnecessary, counterproductive war on Iraq but the article > > > > about immigration was written in 2002 and shows a brilliant, > > > > rational mind. Read it thoroughly and see for yourself. > > > > As to the difference in the current invasion and my grandparents > > > > who came here in the 1890s, they didn't want to annex America > > > > to Russia or Austria-Hungary. They didn't want to force their > > language > > > > and culture on anyone. They didn't want to become welfare > > parasites > > > > or criminals. They did vote for Franklin Delano Roosevelt, but > > > > otherwise they were good Americans. > > > > > > > > For life and liberty, > > > > David Macko > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Paul" <ptireland@> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 9:38 PM > > > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Immigration > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Hospers is being anything but rational and anything but > > > > > libertarian. > > > > > > > > > > He suggested people vote for bush, he supports the war in > > Iraq, and > > > > > now once again, his stanse is on the opposite side of an issue > > from > > > > > from what is consistent libertarianism. John Hospers doesn't > > make > > > > > libertarian arguments. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps he once did, but his senile, foolish, and extremely > > > > > unlibertarian actions have robbed him of having even the > > slightest bit > > > > > of credibility. > > > > > > > > > > LIBERTARIANS SUPPORT OPEN BORDERS. > > > > > > > > > > We should be offering our support and doing it vocally. I > > fully > > > > > intend to do this in my campaign, especially since my district > > is 47% > > > > > Hispanic. > > > > > > > > > > This is most certainly not an "invasion" anymore than the 1.5 > > million > > > > > Irish (A higher percentage of the total population at the time > > than > > > > > Mexicans now) were an invasion, or the Italians, or the > > Polish, or the > > > > > Germans, or the Dutch, or the Chinese, etc. All of them were > > called > > > > > "invaders" by people being paranoid who feared competition back > > > then, just > > > > > as the Mexicans are being called now. > > > > > > > > > > The Mexican illegal aliens are absolutely no different than the > > > > > European immigrants who came here during the Industrial > > Revolution. > > > > > The only difference is the unconstitutional immigration laws we > > > have now. > > > > > > > > > > When most of our ancestors immigrated here, they merely had to > > get on > > > > > a boat, show up, and sign their names on a piece of paper. > > This is > > > > > all that the Mexican immigrants should have to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "David Macko" <dmacko@> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Since last week's demonstrations my last doubts that > > > > >> there is no immigration problem have ended. This is an > > > > >> invasion problem. I strongly object to having the Libertarian > > > > >> Party commit suicide by following your suggestion. > > > > >> Steve, ideals are important and we all need them but until the > > > > >> damages caused by ninety years of "our" government's > > treasonous > > > foreign > > > > >> policy > > > > >> and a welfare state which attracts parasites are corrected, > > > > >> which might be done in sixty or seventy more years if we start > > > > >> tomorrow morning. > > > > >> In the meantime, here is a rational proposal from our first > > > > >> presidential candidate, John Hospers, A Libertarian Argument > > > > >> Against Open Borders: > > > > >> http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/13_2/13_2_3.pdf > > > > >> It has three positive arguments in its favor. > > > > >> It does not involve the suicide of the Libertarian Party, > > > > >> the United States or our liberty. > > > > >> > > > > >> For life and liberty, > > > > >> David Macko > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> From: "steven linnabary" <linnabary51@> > > > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > > > >> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:20 PM > > > > >> Subject: [Libertarian] Immigration > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >I am a bit disgusted with the LP's lack of involvement with > > the > > > > > recent pro > > > > >> > immigration demonstrations. I'm definitely not pointing > > fingers, > > > > > because > > > > >> > I > > > > >> > am as to blame as anyone as I've done absolutely nothing. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > But immigration is an issue that COULD propel the LP because > > > > > neither of > > > > >> > the > > > > >> > other parties favors open immigration. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > To my defense, and probably of others, I didn't even know > > they were > > > > >> > happening until after they were over. That really isn't an > > excuse, > > > > >> > because > > > > >> > we should be LEADING on this issue. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I guess I'm asking if anyone here is aware of when the next > > > > > demonstration > > > > >> > will take place? Does anyone know where to contact any > > > leadership? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > PEACE > > > > >> > Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer > > > > >> > Franklin County Libertarian Party > > > > >> > (614) 891-8841 > > > > >> > P.O.Box#115; Blacklick, OH 43004-0115 > > > > >> > > > > > >> > "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make > > violent > > > > > revolution > > > > >> > inevitable" John F. Kennedy > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
