each nation and it doesn't matter if someone owns land within the
nation, just that they are bringing goods from one nation into
another. Each nation is placed in charge of guarding the borders of
that nation and granted the authority to charge tariffs on behalf of
those who live in the country as a PRIVILEGE to sell goods within that
country.
--- In [email protected], "terry12622000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Taking goods from one persons property to another persons property if
> both parties agree for the property to be tranfered is not a
> privildge unless it can be shown that the government is providing a
> service that one or both of the parties agreed too, or that the
> government is the owner of the property or is part owner of the
> property with a right to charge the fee. Just because the government
> says it has a right to charge the fee does not make it so, if the two
> property owners in posseion of the property challenge the governments
> claim as defedents the government must prove its case before a jury
> if the owners want a jury.--- In [email protected], "Paul"
> <ptireland@> wrote:
> >
> > All taxes are not force. For instance a gas tax. One could choose
> > not to use gas. One could use an entirely electric car and avoid
> the
> > tax all together. Therefore it's not force because someone has
> made a
> > CHOICE to use gas, and therefore agrees to pay the fee (aka tax)
> > associated with it. If they choose not to pay it, they can CHOOSE
> to
> > use an electric car or another conveyance.
> >
> > A right can not be taxed, but a privilege can be. For instance the
> > PRIVILEGE of bringing goods across national borders. This is not a
> > right and has nothing to do with the right of property ownership.
> It
> > is a PRIVILEGE offered by governments for a fee.
> >
> > If you make a choice to bring those goods across national borders,
> > you're CHOOSING to pay the fee associated with them. If you try to
> > bring your goods across without paying, you're committing an act of
> > aggression in the form of trespass and theft.
> >
> > Illigitimate taxes would include a breathing tax, an eating tax, an
> > income tax, or a sleeping tax.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "terry12622000" <cottondrop@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > All taxes are intation of force, otherwise the fees are not
> taxes.---
> > > In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You mean like accurately describing a tariff as not using the
> > > > initiation of force? And for those who smuggle goods across
> > > national
> > > > borders of initiating force? And thoroughy proving logically,
> > > > reasonably, intelligently, and from a libertarian perspective
> that
> > > not
> > > > all taxes are theft, and not all taxes amount to the initiation
> of
> > > > force while disproving every inaccurate, false, and misleading
> > > > statement you tried to make to the contrary?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], <boyd.w.smith@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Paul <ptireland@>
> > > > > > Wrong. Comparing Christianity to Libertarianism is an
> > > absolutely
> > > > > > perfect analogy. Christianity has a set belief system and
> so
> > > does
> > > > > > libertarianism. Christianity has a core belief that
> separates
> > > its
> > > > > > belief system from others. In this case the belief in
> Jesus of
> > > > > > Nazareth. In the case of Libertarianism it's the believe
> in
> > > and
> > > > > > support of the non-aggression principle. If someone does
> not
> > > > > > believe
> > > > > > in the nap, the term "libertarianism" is as inappropriate
> for
> > > them
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > is "Christianity" for a Satan worshiping.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All paths do not lead to liberty. Some lead to aggression,
> and
> > > those
> > > > > > that lead to aggression always lead away from liberty.
> > > Aggression in
> > > > > > the name of liberty is like rape in the name of virginity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Exactly like supporting tariffs and saying it isn't a tax
> when it
> > > > really is. And then denying that fact that all taxes are
> initiated
> > > > aggression.
> > > > >
> > > > > BWS
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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