offend both the slave owners and the abolistness, in order to get the
constitution ratfied, both could say it was not about slavery. --- In
[email protected], <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It is really unclear. Several problems are now apparent. We are
trying to argue a document that was written 200 years ago when
language was different and all of the original writers are dead for
over a 150 years. So we are in the position of trying to divine
intent from other writings by them and their contemporaries. A bad
situation.
>
> BWS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: terry12622000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 1:26 pm
> Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Article 1. sec. 9
>
> > A person needs to look how and if the clause fits in with the
rest
> > of
> > section 9, so you may have a point.--- In
> > [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It mentions paying a DUTY for imported persons.
> > >
> > > Main Entry: 1du·ty
> > > Pronunciation: 'dü-tE also 'dyü-
> > > Function: noun
> > > Inflected Form(s): plural duties
> > > Etymology: Middle English duete, from Anglo-French dueté, from
Old
> > > French deu due
> > > 1 : conduct due to parents and superiors : RESPECT
> > > 2 a : obligatory tasks, conduct, service, or functions that
> > arise
> > from
> > > one's position (as in life or in a group) b (1) : assigned
> > service
> > or
> > > business (2) : active military service (3) : a period of being
> > on
> > duty
> > > 3 a : a moral or legal obligation b : the force of moral
obligation
> > > 4 : TAX; especially : a tax on imports
> > > 5 a : WORK 1a b (1) : the service required (as of an electric
> > machine)
> > > under specified conditions (2) : functional application : USE
<got
> > > double duty out of the trip> (3) : use as a substitute <making
the
> > > word do duty for the thing -- Edward Sapir>
> > > synonym see FUNCTION, TASK
> > > - off duty : free from assignment or responsibility
> > > - on duty : engaged in or responsible for an assigned task or
duty
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In this case that revers to a tax on imported GOODS. This
> > refers to
> > > slaves. The word "slave" doesn't need to be used, becase the
word
> > > duty refers to a tax on a property to be imported.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], <boyd.w.smith@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > But neither section 8 nor section 9 mention slaves at all.
In
> > fact
> > > section 9 specificly mentions persons. Do you have a source
for you
> > > interpretation. Otherwise it would be best to go with the
words as
> > > written. Unless we can find some evidence of meaning of terms
> > > drifting as what happened with the word 'regulated' in the 2nd
> > amendment.
> > > >
> > > > BWS
> > > >
> > > > From: Paul <ptireland@>
> > > > > Wrong. It means after 1808, Congress may place
prohibitions
> > on
> > the
> > > > > states in regard to the transport and importation of
slaves, not
> > > > > immigration. Migration is not immigration.
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "hrearden_hr"
> > <HRearden@>
> > > > > wrote:>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Although the section of the article was refering to
slaves
> > the
> > > > > > wording of it means that after the year 1808 Congress can
> > place
> > > > > > prohibitions on states in regard to migration. After 1808
> > in
> > fact
> > > > > > Congress did enact legislation prohibiting slaves from
> > being
> > > > > > transported to the U.S.A. Congress because of Article I
> > sec.9
> > can
> > > > > > plase prohibitions on immigration. The part about a duty
> > being
> > > > > > imposed on importation of persons is useless because
> > slavery
> > and
> > > > > > indentured servtitude have been abolished and thus people
> > are
> > no
> > > > > > longer transported to the U.S.A. as slaves or indentured
> > > servents as
> > > > > > payment for their passage. After 1808 it was illegal to
> > transport
> > > > > > slaves to the U.S.A.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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