Such a point does not go in a thread titled abortion lest there is a
deeper intention. I am not, as Paul and Terry (despite his aledged
aversion to ad homonim) stupid.

Here is a 'red hering' for you, blacks couldn't own property in the
old us, Jews couldnt own property in nazi germany.

--- In [email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Uncool,
>
> Your post completely misconstrued my point: Fetuses can not own
> property.
>
> -Mark
>

>
> ************
> {American jurors have complete Constitutional authority to vote
> "not guilty" based on nothing more than a disagreement with the
> case, no matter the evidence - despite the judge's instructions.
> There is absolutely no obligation to vote "guilty" to arrive at a
> unanimous verdict. Get on a jury, stand your ground, and fulfill
> its other main purpose: to counteract abusive government and
> unjust lawsuits.
> See www.fija.org 
> [Please adopt this as your own signature.] }
>
> ------------------
>
>
>
> This is why I must reject to cave to the desire of individuals
> who
> wish to close debate down to a scale they deem managable and
> benificial to there goals rather than benificial to impartiality.
>
> Social security, titles,  etc are part of legal rights dirived
> from
> the state. I reject the idea that LIFE is protected only by legal
>
> rights, making it little more than a privledge. Terry is very
> ademant at how he defines a person, I am very ademant as to what
> I
> describe as the human right to life. This is not given by the
> state
> by an inate inalienable right.
>
> Legal rights may require the devices of the state such as a
> social
> security number to label and track us for life. Human rights are
> not
> dependant on such things.
>
> hu.man n.
> 1)A member of the genus Homo and especially of the species H.
> sapiens.
> 2)A person.
>
> right n.
> 1) Something that is due to a person
> 2) Something, especially humane treatment, claimed to be due to
> animals by moral principle.
>
> life n.
> 1)The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms
> from
> dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such
> as
> metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or
> adaptation to the environment originating from within the
> organism.
> 2)The characteristic state or condition of a living organism.
>
>
> Human Right to Life, do you believe in it or is your life the
> property of the superstate, forget everything and ask yourself
> that.
>
> --- In [email protected], "mark robert" <colowe@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would just like to humbly add my own to this masterful
> exposure
> > of anti-abortionism:
> >
> > If fetuses are persons, then I should be able to will my estate
> > to my pregnant niece's. So that means fetuses will have to,
> > immediately after conception, acquire things like names and
> > genders and ss-numbers. Of course that also means that my other
> > niece's fetus would have the right to contest my will. I can
> see
> > it now: both wombs in court, wired to ultrasound, with an
> > "interpreter". Well whomever wins better not forget to pay the
> > inheritance and property taxes or they might end up in
> fetus-jail
> > (and loose their freedom and their rights).
> >
> > -Mark
> >
>







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