Mary,

You are FAR too kind.

But I might have to qualify my earlier compliment. It seems Paul
Ireland MAY have thought of this principle before. His "tape worm
does not have extra rights" comment takes the same viewpoint.
Paul, you there? I think Mary just made me understand its
brilliance. Was that yours?

-Mark



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Mark:  Your re-phrasing is exactly right.  It's original.  I
always think what you say is brilliant too.  At least, I can't
think of an exception.  Mary

mark robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Mary,

That's brilliant!

So you are actually not violating the rights of the fetus when
getting an abortion, even if it had personhood status; because
you can't violate rights that no person can have. Have I
rephrased you correctly?

Is that original, or who haven't I been reading?

-Mark


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Suppose that a zygote, fetus, whatever, IS a human being. Why
shoud it have more rights than you or I or other human beings?

If you or I need a kidney, or a liver, or only a pint of blood
to survive--and if there is only one person in the world (a
relative, perhaps) who can be the donor--the law does not insist
that that person endorse our right to life by donating parts of,
or use of, their body.

You or I could--and probably would--make out a case that the
person who refused to donate even a mere pint of blood for us in
order for us to survive was a very bad person, indeed. And
probably, they WOULD BE a bad person. Still, under law, no one is
held down, kicking and screaming, while some of their blood, or
whatever is extracted from them.

You and I do not have the right to others' bodies, even if it
makes the difference between life and death for us. Why should
the unborn?





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