Your not the first to say the same Mark, you wont be the last. You are not a costomer and I am not a salesman. You want to read what I say read it, if not don't. I wont be hurt either way.
--- In [email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Uncool, you wrote: > "The unfortunate reality of reality is that it is clear cut nor > is it black and white." > For this reason, I virtually never read past your first line; > because it is immediately apparent that you NEVER proofread your > posts or care to communicate effectively. > -Mark > > > > ************ > {American jurors have complete Constitutional authority to vote > "not guilty" based on nothing more than a disagreement with the > case, no matter the evidence - despite the judge's instructions. > There is absolutely no obligation to vote "guilty" to arrive at a > unanimous verdict. Get on a jury, stand your ground, and fulfill > its other main purpose: to counteract abusive government and > unjust lawsuits. > See www.fija.org > [Please adopt this as your own signature.] } > > > --------------- > > The unfortunate reality of reality is that it is clear cut nor is > it > black and white. > > As per former secretary of treasury Paul O'Niel the decision to > go > to war was made while George Bush was President Elect, before he > took office. The basis, from Mr. O'Niel's observation was the > idea > developed by Rice, Cheney, Rumsfield and Bush that "rouge > nations" > were the greatest threat to US supremecy over the world. The > aleged > idea was that overwhleming force used against a "rouge nation" > would > serve to discourage the 'rouge nations' 'rouge' behavior. > > The decision to target Iraq over other options was made with out > O'Niel's involvment so he could not comment on that rational, but > > the decision was made. Reasons to justify it were then sought out > by > the adminstration, CIA cheif Tenent was the main party > responsible > for finding cause to wage the war that Bush and his closest > advisors > had already set there mind on having. > > > One of the largest problems I have with this assesment is > Afghanistan, if the goal had been to set an example then > Afghanistan > should have been sufficient. The agenda was not to set an > example, > the agenda was to invade Iraq. The most absurd reality, is that > the > result was the exact oposite of the aleged desired effect. With > the > armed forces bogged down in Iraq, and the US Army proportedly > broken > those 'rouge nations' have become more emboldened. Iran stepped > up > its enrichment program and is unshakably defiant, North Korea had > > its flare up of defiance, China has become more assertive in its > claim of dominion over Taiwan. Mr. O'Niel often pondered the fact > > that the discussion was always how will we go to war with Iraq > and > never why. > > Regaurdless of wether the agenda was deterance or not, what is > clear > is that it was not clear and presetn danger, nor eminant threat > that > promted the war in Iraq. I could go on and on about my own > Senetor, > Carl Levon the senior member of the Armed Forces Comitte in the > Senate how ever I thought the thoughts of a former high level > Bush > aid and long time Republican would be of more value. > > --- In [email protected], <boyd.w.smith@> wrote: > > > > Rep. Paul has made a logical and thoughtful argument against > what > he believes to be an initiation of aggression in Iraq. His > stance > is principled. The only question to me is whether or not the > conflict in Iraq is a case of legitimate reaction to a credible > threat of aggression or not. No one has been able to make a > clear > cut case in either direction. > > > > BWS > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XmUd6C/bOaOAA/cUmLAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
