My agreement notwithstanding, I would like to see some citations. If I had a link I could point people to, with McCain's statement below, it would be much easier to convince others of the danger. Unattributed quotes can simply be disbelieved.
Chris > Victor, > > I agree with you on this one. McCain also said that the recent > Supreme Court decision upholding habeas corpus was "one of the worst > decisions in our nation's history". Speaking alongside McCain, his > cohort Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said that liberal judges can't be trusted > to know the "standards for release" from prison. Rather, only > soldiers are qualified to decided when a prisoner should be freed. > > An American citizen held at Guantanamo was one of the parties to the > case, so these statements are directed at all of us. McCain didn't > say so himself, but Graham would put us on the brink of military > dictatorship, once soldiers begin to replace judges. > > I remember as a child wondering how the citizens of the Wiemar > Republic ever allowed their protections to be dismantled. Was not the > danger obvious? The answer of course is that it was, but no one > really believed the worst would happen, until it did. > > Chris > >> Hello All, >> >> >> From probably more people than I can count I have heard the following,"Yeah, >> McCain is bad but Obama is even worse..." >> >> If you ask me McCain is worse on the key issue IMO, War. The deadliest of >> all Government programs. >> >> However, I am not convinced that Obama is Anti-War but rather that McCain is >> more Pro-War than Obama. >> >> The recent revelations that Obama wants to create some internal security >> force with powers that rivals the Military I found disturbing: >> >> "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national >> security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national >> security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." >> >> McCain is apparently no different and even more blunt about using Military >> force in our streets: >> >> "MCCAIN: And some of those tactics - you mention the war in Iraq - are like >> that we use in the military. You go into neighborhoods, you clamp down, you >> provide a secure environment for the people that live there, and you make >> sure that the known criminals are kept under control. And you provide them >> with a stable environment and then they cooperate with law enforcement, etc, >> etc." >> >> Can people seriously look me in the eye in light of this comment and tell me >> this NUT JOB will be better than Obama??? >> >> If anything it's a dead heat in nuttiness with Obama slightly edging out >> McCain on the War. >> >> To remind people about their two positions on the War: >> >> Not only has McCain made no bones about staying in both Afghanistan and Iraq >> "till the job is done." (whatever that means) >> >> He also is more than willing to "Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran!" and that is >> an exact quote. >> >> Based on Obama's constant posturing in the media I don't think he is as >> willing to blindly stay the course (right off of a cliff) as the Happy >> Warrior McKiller is. >> >> His suggestion of moving troops from Iraq into Afghanistan (while certainly >> not Anti-War by any stretch of the imagination) strikes me as less War Happy >> than McMurder. >> >> Vic >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
