--- In [email protected], "diablogonzales" <spammastergr...@...>
wrote:
>
> How come I can't create a poll here?
>
> Ther reason I'm asking is because od someone who seems to misunderstand
> Libertarian principles to mean we believe a business should have the freedom
> to do anything it wants, or even we don't believe in laws. Nonsense. Not
> liking regulation is not a call for anarchy.
>
Yes it is.
> There are common sense laws about rape, murder, theft, that no one seems
> against with he possible exception of rapists, murderers and thiefs.
>
If it's "common sense" then why are laws necessary?
> As for corporations, does anyone here think they should have the freedom to
> sell poison as cherry coke?
>
That doesn't seem like a profitable business plan, does it?
> You can't take platforms and statements then pervert them to extremes and
> talk about inconsistency.
>
> Another contention is that Libertarians believe employers have the right to
> hire anyone they want, and discriminate against anyone they want. So my poll
> would be, do you think an employer has the right to refuse to hire someone
> because of race, religion, gender or sexuial orientation?
>
Yes
> Another poll would be, would you vote for a simple bill that said an employer
> can not discriminate in hiring or pay based on gender, race, religion or
> sexual orientation.
>
No
> That is a bit different than equal pay because an employer should be able to
> pay someone more for the same job who's done it for ten years with 7% annual
> raises? Or some guy gets hired out of Harvard, some woman at of Montgomery
> Community College.
>
> But a law could be written that states you can't discrimate in hirin or pay
> based on the race, gender, etc criteria. Leaving the burden of proof up to a
> person suing a company. So the company is not forced to simply pay everyone
> the same for the same job.
>
> I mean, does anyone here think an employer has the right in a free market
> system to just say, sorry, we don't hire blacks here?
>
Yes
> I personally think, why not? I believe in meritocracy. I believe people
> should have a redress to the law if someone refuses to hire them based on
> anything but merit, ability, skills, experience, etc.
>
An employer that does not hire based on merit is:
A) stupid, and won't be able to compete with employers that do hire based on
merit, or
B) shielded form competition by some form of government intervention.
---Sasan