Sam, The crosstabs (see page 9) absolutely list Warren as Libertarian. As do most of the media reports.
Greenberg is referring to Carl Paladino in Western NY. The poll is based on him as a Libertarian in the General Election and does not reflect a split between the two parties as you suggest. I certainly am not reading any poll as more than what it is. David Moore's book The Super Pollsters is as engaging book about methodology, tactics and meanings of polls as any of the many that I have read. There is no scientific paradigm of polling that can apply in relation to more empirically bound disciplines. While the Seneca Nation may have commissioned polls from Siena at some point regarding cigarettes and policy in the past, I don't see anywhere that this is the case. Perhaps you are misreading my sentence about the two. I do not believe they are related in this matter. I agree that Kristin Davis is an issue for the LPNY. Please forward my responses to the Yahoo groups listed, many of whom I am not a member of and just bounce on me. As an IT guy, I've never been a big fan of Yahoo Groups, but do try on occasion to communicate thusly with the many Libertarians that are fans/users. Thanks, Eric > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:06:33 -0400 > Subject: Re: Warren Redlich attacks Sam Sloan on the New York Politics > Newsgroup > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected] > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Eric Sundwall > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please note that the official crosstabs on the 'Siena' poll have Warren > > listed as Libertarian. > > While Siena is also a province in Tuscany, it is not related to the famous > > Rhetorician. > > > > Considering the Siena Research has a general policy of not including third > > party > > candidates until they can make it on the ballot, it is significant. A recent > > email > > from Richard Winger also confirms that notion. I am not familiar with any > > LPNY candidate for Governor ever achieving ANY poll above 2%, let alone this > > early. > > > > Three percent of the 4.6 million people who voted in 2006 for Governor is > > approximately 140K votes, > > 4 percent is about 180K. Presumably many within the membership are concerned > > about achieving 50K votes. > > These are real numbers being evidenced. Not a locked and secure case of > > course, but significant. > > > > Eric > > Sorry, but I disagree. Not only is the word "Libertarian" not used in > the poll but one of the pollsters implies that Redlich is running as a > Republican. Here is a quote: > > "Greenberg said. Today it looks like Democrats are planning a > coronation at their convention, while Republicans seem to be gearing > up for a battle of Long Islanders one a lifelong Republican and one > a newly minted convert with perhaps a western New York Republican > businessman in the mix as well. > > http://www.newwnypolitics.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1009:run-andrew-run-poll-respondents-say&catid=1 > > I believe that the "western New York Republican businessman" is Redlich. > > Redlich plans to run both as a Republican and as a Libertarian. If he > really does get 140,000 votes they would be divided between the two > parties with the Republican line getting the Lion's Share. > > We have a more serious problem with Kristin Davis. She plans to run > for Governor both as a Libertarian and on her own newly formed > "Personal Choice Party". She will have to get more than 100,000 votes > split evenly between the two parties to get us both ballot lines. > > These early polls mean almost nothing. Remember in the early stages of > the last presidential election, Rudy Giuliani was way ahead with 41% > and John McCain was dead last with 1.5 %. > > Please note that this poll was commissioned by the Seneca Nation, an > Indian Tribe that wants to sell tax free tobacco and gasoline and > wants to open a Gambling Casino in Upstate New York. Thus, the poll is > likely to be biased in favor of their interests. > > I do agree that it was good that Redlich was at least included in the > poll, which gives us a little bit of exposure. > > Sam Sloan _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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