I solved the P2 problem in Ex4 and Ex5.
Everything was fine, but for nu = 0.49995, the linear solver was not converging.
I did not realize that as I was not printing the output of the linear solver on 
screen.
Changing the preconditioner, I was able to solve the nearly-incompressible P2 
elasticity problem, getting finally some instabilities in the pressure.
Thanks for the help,
Simone

On Oct 13, 2016, at 13:12, David Knezevic 
<david.kneze...@akselos.com<mailto:david.kneze...@akselos.com>> wrote:

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Rossi, Simone 
<sro...@email.unc.edu<mailto:sro...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:
Dear David,
thanks for your answer. In this case (nu=0.49995), first order elements 
typically lock, but second order elements typically do not lock.
In fact many use second order lagrangian elements for nearly incompressible 
materials. I wanted to use this example just to show that second order elements 
are not inf-sup stable.
But the results I get running Ex4 are not "bad": in my opinion, they are 
nonsense.
I wonder if the differences come from a different way of handling the boundary 
conditions or from a bug in the assembly.
Let me know if you have any insight.
Thanks,
Simone


Not sure why that would be the case, I guess you'll need to do more tests to 
figure out what's happening. Feel free to reach out if you have any specific 
questions. I doubt there's an issue with the BCs since they use 
DirichletBoundary code which is widely used, but it wouldn't hurt to check the 
assembly (I normally use 3D elasticity, and I'd say that this 2D elasticity 
example has not been widely used so a bug is possible, or alternatively maybe 
it's a plane strain vs. plane stress issue).

David



On Oct 13, 2016, at 12:00, David Knezevic 
<david.kneze...@akselos.com<mailto:david.kneze...@akselos.com>> wrote:

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Rossi, Simone 
<sro...@email.unc.edu<mailto:sro...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:
Dear all,
I’m playing around with the elasticity tests in the system of equations 
examples (more specifically Ex4 and Ex5).
In particular I’m trying to set the poisson ratio to nu = 0.49995.
With this choice the solution I get using second order lagrangian elements does 
not make any sense.
For first order elements the solution looks more reasonable, but still 
different from what I get from FreeFEM++.
Does it depend on the enforcement of the Dirichlet boundary conditions?
Thanks,
Simone


nu=0.49995 is almost incompressible. Normally people use special formulations 
for that type of problem, e.g. a mixed method to enforce almost 
incompressibility (similar to Stokes in fluids). That probably explains why you 
get bad results by naively using the simple formulation from ex4 and ex5.

David




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