https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85693

--- Comment #12 from Mirek2 <maz...@gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Jay Philips from comment #11)
> (In reply to Mirek2 from comment #10)
> > > Was there a reason why you didnt use the icon directly, as most of the 
> > > gnome
> > > tango icons were taken as is, and the black floppy is quite nice and is an
> > > actual color of a real floppy.
> > 
> > The intention was to have something that looks distinct from the Gnome
> > floppy icon. A single icon should never be used for two completely different
> > things.
> 
> So you mean that gnome is using it as a floppy icon, so we shouldnt use the
> same one as a save and save as icon. I dont see the problem in this as most
> of libreoffice's users are not gnome users and most computers these days
> dont have floppy drives, so most people wouldnt see a floppy icon in gnome
> as well.

Gnome icons are used well beyond Gnome, so not just Gnome users would be
affected.

Even if floppy disks aren't generally used, it's simply good practice to not
reuse the same icon for different meanings. You never know where the floppy
icon might pop up -- e.g. it could be used as part of a generic "removable
devices" icon, and there it really should be clear that it's meant to represent
a floppy, that it's not an icon meaning "save to a device".

> > > Also was there a reason for not keeping the
> > > original tango floppy, as i still find it clearer to see than the gnome
> > > black floppy.
> > 
> > It doesn't fit in with the new icon set (and it looks outdated).
> 
> I think the blue fits in better than the purple if you see the icons in the
> standard and formatting toolbars. You have blue in quite a number of icons,
> while you have no purple in any.

We could make it blue.

The overuse of blue was why I chose purple, though. If we're going to have
colored icons, it's useful to associate those colors with something -- that
speeds the user up! Right now, black stands for text or lines, blue for
selection, highlight, or shape, orange for transformations (moving, resizing,
rotating, etc.), red for help or error, yellow for comments and highlighting,
etc. Purple is underused, and it could be associated with saving.

> About it looking outdated, with icons at
> 16x16 and 24x24, users can barely see the level of detail being put into
> these svg icons which result in them looking blurry and unclear, so the
> simpler the design, the easier it is for users to see. This is one of the
> problems i see plaguing the gnome tango icons at such small icon sizes.
>
> https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/attachments/download/325/
> tango%20formatting.png
> 

These icons were designed for these icon sizes, and by people who had years of
experience designing icons. (In fact, some of the very people who worked on the
original base Tango set.) The level of detail is just right as far as Tango
icons go -- that is, these icons have to work on both dark and light
backgrounds, have the prescribed lighting and shadows, and so on, and that
makes them a bit complex. That's why there's symbolic/Sifr.

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